Thanks to Justicar for snaring this.
Rebecca Watson – godless skepticism’s answer to Michele Bachmann and Sarah Palin. There really is no polite way to say “dumb as a bag of ball bearings” is there?
Perhaps there may be an excuse to slip up like this in just a stream of consciousness conversation – but even then, you deserve to be joked about for it and have your nose rubbed in it for a good long time.
But this is not just a casual discussion. This is a planned video presentation. What a proud display of intellectual incoherence and sheer, butt stoopid ignorance. She doesn’t even care about what she says enough to support it with a quick peek in the cesspit of lies – she knows she is preaching to converts, many who are even dumber, and none of them ever check anything.
This, if you believe CFI and The Naked Emperor, is secularism’s golden girl. The role model to lead is into the future…
Dumber than dog shit is what it really is.
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Addendum – 30th September
This is beyond merely repugnant, and shows what a sycophantic circle jerk secularism is under these “figureheads” –
Myers, who has no qualms whatsoever about flaying even the most trivial of slip ups in those outside his perverted liberal psychosphere, usually by mutating context and quote mining, cannot suppress the urge to ride like a white knight to Becky’s defense for what is way beyond a simple slip of the tongue. Pathetic. Myers, I hope you’ve at least got a hand job to show for all of your bootlicking efforts to date.
September 27, 2011 at 4:42 pm
Uh, well yeah. The church burned Galileo at the stake, then the priests violated his burned carcass, then fed it to his children. (Mmm, gravy.) You would already know that if you weren’t retarded. Don’t be a dick, Franc!
September 27, 2011 at 6:29 pm
My dear Franc, I wish that we might laugh at the remarkable stupidity of the common herd. What do you have to say about the principal philosophers of this academy who are filled with the stubbornness of an asp and do not want to look at books or even wikipedia, even though that is really damn easy? Truly, just as the asp stops its ears, so does this ‘philosopher’ shut her eyes to the light of truth.//// quote with apologies to Galileo
September 27, 2011 at 7:23 pm
Indeed. And as one watches the superhero BigBrains at CFI toil away at enlightening an ignorant planet, one is reminded of Luke 4:23 –
Physician, heal thyself
There are only 2 possible reasons for teetering-on-insolvency groups like CFI squandering resources on a slapstick sideshow like Watson –
1) Willful ignorance (in which case, fire the lot and hire competent folks), or
2) Corruption and complicity with the Watsonistas ((in which case, fire the lot and hire some folks with integrity)
Outcome is the same, come to think of it. Throw ’em out and get some new ones…
In its current incarnation, it has ceased to be an organisation worth any kind of support.
September 27, 2011 at 6:56 pm
She is so dumb in this one, it’s actually hard to watch. I cringe in embarrassment for her. It’s like, “What did she just say? Oh no she didn’t!!!” 😀
September 27, 2011 at 7:37 pm
The only tragedy is that this was not live before a TAM audience. I know what knucklehead has done – not that it’s an excuse or makes her any less stupid – she’s conflated Galileo with Giordano Bruno.
If anything it makes it worse – outright ignorance is nowhere near as bad as convenience store intellectualism failing whilst trying to pass itself off as smarter than thou.
KICK HER TO THE CURB NOW – she has turned ALL secularism into a farce. There is nothing here other than an endless stream of material for conservative god-fearing blogs to laugh at. It is beyond embarrassment.
September 28, 2011 at 2:00 am
convenience store intellectualism Yes..thats the best description of her.
I was attending a lecture by David Silverman of AA this sunday.. cool dude who does real activism, and I maganed to get into a brief one-on-one discussion. He sure doesnt appreciate the “goings on” (from RW’s side at least) for its impact on the movement. CFI’s got to wake up, unless they dont care for the atheist movement.
Her only hope is to stick to the ‘atheist misogyny’ meme. Talk about anything else, and the stoopid will show.
September 28, 2011 at 2:16 am
Astro, I’ve discussed the current state of affairs at CFI previously and, though they will deny it, the hostility towards atheists is quite evident from some of its official “blessed” bloggers –
https://greylining.wordpress.com/2011/08/11/cficsiskepchick-theory-of-courtiers/
September 27, 2011 at 7:47 pm
And Myers – after disgracing yourself with your puppy dog act licking the sneakers of this cretin princess, I hope you’ve at least got a hand job to show for it.
September 28, 2011 at 3:14 am
Seems to say “don’t do that” a lot. Which reminds me of the anti-cartoon-violence squirrel on Itchy and Scratchy.
September 28, 2011 at 5:35 am
I don’t remember the squirrel, but I always cracked up from the horse that would pop in to say “No sir, I don’t like it”. 🙂
September 27, 2011 at 11:13 pm
I’d say this is all worth forwarding to CFI. But… did I get this right, she’s dating one of the organisers?
Time to write my “Don’t be a Becky” manifesto!!!
Parody and dumbness aside, how can she be allowed to give talks at a Skeptic conference? Even I (a common douchebag by all accounts) usually try to check facts before saying something. “Usually” is the key-word, of course, but yet again I don’t pretend to represent anything/anyone….
September 27, 2011 at 11:29 pm
It’s the Center For Ideology now. They no longer have an interest in any kind of evidence.
September 28, 2011 at 12:36 am
And another feminist post on the monkey board today…
September 28, 2011 at 12:53 am
Oh this is rich, coming from Becky’s toilet –
But vat we really haff iz ze
Jewishwhite male problem unt it demands ze FINAL SOLUTION!Rehash of a replay of a regurgitation. Must be a conference coming up and Chumpy needs his balls tickled.
September 28, 2011 at 1:27 am
In fact, the article the Baboon King is blabbering about is rehashed from BitchMedia May 18, 2011. Strangely, that site seems curiously devoid of similar Watsonista slave wallowing. Maybe I’m just not digging enough. Not even close to being that interested.
September 28, 2011 at 5:40 am
He’s suffering post-elevatorgate depression, trying to kick-start the feminist fury back to life again. Let it die, PZ, let it die already. 🙂
September 28, 2011 at 1:45 am
Brayton’s comment on that post are amusing:
Given all the talk of the need for inclusiveness and diversity, male bloggers on the site outnumber female bloggers two to one. And all the bloggers (so far as I can tell) are white North Americans.
I can’t be arsed familiarising myself with the contributors’ political slants, but I’d be surprised if there was a social conservative amongst the lot.
Vive la différence!
September 28, 2011 at 1:50 am
Oy vey!
September 28, 2011 at 1:51 am
Yeah, they have “diversity” just like they have “freethought” –
https://greylining.wordpress.com/2011/09/17/the-crisis-factory/
September 28, 2011 at 1:58 am
Stephen, that’s the Naked Emperor all over –
– Ignorance is Strength –
– Freedom is Slavery –
He does it with a straight face too.
September 28, 2011 at 7:28 am
…and once again PZ employs his patented “anticipation of a criticism is a refutation of that criticism” fallacy.
September 28, 2011 at 2:54 am
OK so I also knew they didn’t have to execute him… but is this really some big fucking deal?
I criticise the likes of Watson because of her bigoted ideology – not because of some piece of trivia she gets wrong on a field of knowledge where she makes no claim of authority or expertise.
September 28, 2011 at 10:57 am
The story of Galileo is elementary common knowledge. Expertise in the history of the social ramifications of the development of science during the Italian experience of the Renaissance is not required.
But granting Becky simply misspoke then one is quite able to laugh and mock such a silly mistake; I’d laugh at and mock a friend for such a mistake. But given this is such a basic piece of trivia, that Becky has assumed a mantle of ‘leadership’ and ‘speaking for the community’ and this is a fucking video one can watch, edit, and reshoot as required before uploading to the internets you’ve gotta wonder at the level of care and general basic knowledge that such a mistake made it through.
Or, in other words, if you’re going to rebuke someone for a factual error it’s good form to not support it with a factual error of one’s own.
September 28, 2011 at 11:21 am
Precisely – a duty of care. This is not a discussion in a pub – it is a premeditated video sermon to the masses. To be above rudimentary fact checking is to be in Bachmann / Palin territory.
September 29, 2011 at 2:14 am
It’s a reliance on the general ignorance and/or devotion of one’s followers; that they’ll either miss it entirely, or let it go because it’s “just a piece of trivia.”
I am, for one reason or another, reminded of Ron Rosenbaum’s (Explaining Hitler) Slate article suggesting the perils of ignoring the historical ignorance of the Tea Party, and am confounded (even though I shouldn’t be) that the very same kinds of things could happen among the ranks of so-called “skeptics.”
September 29, 2011 at 2:18 am
Oops. I’m in moderation hell. Not sure if it notifies — I tend to turn those damn things off — but just FYI.
September 29, 2011 at 1:09 pm
Two links triggers it, just FYI. Released above.
September 29, 2011 at 10:28 pm
The Galileo myth is an excellent example of how ignorance plays such a key role in bigotry. If she needs to lie about history to escalate hate against a particular group, it’s purely incendiary propaganda.
Her audience is driven by deep-seeded hatred. Since it sounds about right, who cares about the true?
Yes, house-arrest was one of the unspeakable atrocities committed during the Middle Ages. But even worse, Galileo endured the inhumane conditions of a palace rather than a dungeon. Such cruel and unusual punishment was deemed unfit for the common criminal of the age.
BTW, can anyone name just one scientist besides Galileo who was infamously persecuted by the church? No! That’s why it’s important to lie about what actually happened to Galileo, lest the meme of religion opposing science might die.
Becky is the SP and MB of the “free-thinking” movement. Free to think up facts as you go along. One important difference is that these conservative heroins and RW, is that nobody ever worries about attracting more females to the Tea Party Movement. I wonder why?
September 29, 2011 at 10:55 pm
You flatter her to say she lied. She’s just stupid, and arrogant to the point she believes she’s above fact checking. Lying implies she is smart enough to know the facts. The Palin/Bachmann comparison is spot on – blind belief in being above criticism and having no shame at dumbness.
September 29, 2011 at 11:11 pm
Don’t overlook ignorance, got it, but you can’t dismiss the assertion that religion is a barrier to science and the public understanding thereof just because some bimbo gets her facts messed up.
September 30, 2011 at 12:13 am
I just now got around to reading the comments on this video, what a riot! I was particularly fond of this one:
September 30, 2011 at 4:28 am
She has rebutted. Actually….
Watson has posted a fairly long screed naming ERV and Franc, and anonymously dissing other Watson critics with her typical disinformation and distortions.
I know most of you do not follow Skepchick.org because of its generic hypocrisy and distortions, and its adherence to the Gender Feminist Ideologiclal Doctrine of No-Dissent, but you might be curious to have a gande.
In a sense she shows what a skillful (perhaps I should say crafty) communicator she is in that due to the various Watson trademarked rhetorical tricks she uses, not to mention the endless logical fallacies, rebutting her rant effectively is very difficult — at least for someone like me.
Ah well. So it goes. They are so fragile, and so deeply indoctrinated, that they are utterly incapable of witnessing the elephant in the room, or the truly scary fact that they are a blindered mob on fire.
September 30, 2011 at 5:19 am
Sorry, should have linked for the curious: http://skepchick.org/2011/09/mom-dont-read-this/
September 30, 2011 at 8:54 am
Yes, mistakenly using executed for persecuted but correcting that misspoken word is exactly like what Alaska Palin and Minnesota Palin do.
Except, it is not. They double down, and continue to make them. Prolifically.
September 30, 2011 at 12:40 pm
So this is what an orgy of self important loathing looks like!
Cool, well off to fulfilling things in life, enjoy your co-dependence!
September 30, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Is this what “co-dependence” looks like?
September 30, 2011 at 1:30 pm
Becca is tired and is going to play video games now… so sad….
http://skepchick.org/2011/09/mom-dont-read-this/
September 30, 2011 at 1:36 pm
This is her patented psychopath “I’ve done nothing wrong” routine after being caught red handed – “I don’t know why this is being blown out of proportion…”
Same routine she played after getting thrown out of randi.org for behaving like a common criminal vandal. “It’s no big deal. What is everyone’s problem?!?!?”
Stage magician distracting view from one hand by waving around the other.
September 30, 2011 at 5:30 pm
She’s admitted that magical tricks and sleight of hand were what interested her in Randi’s org, not science at all. It wouldn’t surprise me if she still is an active fan of sleight of hand (& mouth), intentional misdirection, etc. Plus combined with an interest in communication, doesn’t add up to anything very trustful or truthful. That’s more the interests of a compulsive liar type honing their skills. Success = fooling people well, or at the least, directing them to go where they wouldn’t have on their own (“I now see all the misogyny too! It’s like everywhere that Watson showed me” sort of thing).
September 30, 2011 at 5:39 pm
“I now see all the misogyny too! It’s like everywhere that Watson showed me” sort of thing
Yeah, like “blacks have thick skulls” and “Jews drink baby blood” and “fags want to fuck your children, thats why they want to be teachers and boy scout leaders”. But that all became uncool.
September 30, 2011 at 6:45 pm
She may be finally catching on that her’s is not so cool either. One can hope, anyways. She’s probably just taking time out to repackage her sales pitch. She’s riding a dead horse of coolness, but the horse is just not listening to her “giddyups”. It’s ears are rotted and decayed. Would someone please tell her. The stink is bothering everyone else around her, well, except for those that like that stench of manufactured persecution *cough, cough, pharynucough, cough*
October 1, 2011 at 1:27 am
I’m one of those who think elevator gate was a non-incident. Someone did something that was creepy to someone else, other person brought it up. Shoulda been the end, but nosy drama whores in the community blew it out of proportion.
The owner of this blog… is a driveling drama whore. There’s nothing but butthurt whining over things they aren’t even personally involved with. Go do something productive, play outside, get medicated, go to an anger management course, become a Christian so we don’t have to tolerate you in our community. Thanks.
October 1, 2011 at 3:05 am
Have you all consumed the giant bin of Kool-Aid? This has nothing to do with Shaftgate. And a non-incident? Becky and PZ agreed to be interviewed by USA Today! Who are the ones keeping Shaftgate alive? If you actually read, instead of just reacted, you may just see how much of an idiot you are.
October 1, 2011 at 3:17 am
Too late, he already rage quit here. ;p
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