“pssst, franc did it…”

Baboons are so giving. Within a day of the Survival Guide post, they have barfed up some perfect examples of exactly how vile they can be when they gather in their echo chamber and start their paranoid whispers about how cruel the world is to them.

The first is merely amusing. The fact that Reddit Atheism+, much like freefromthoughtblogs and skepchick, is being censored with the zeal of a North Korean newspaper is a given and not a surprise to anyone. What is a surprise though (at least to me) is that they found a way to disable the Reddit post “dislike” arrow. I guess clicking the “dislike” arrow on what someone says is a coat of paint away from violent rape at knife point – if you listen to Marcotte and Skeptifem enough it is anyway. So they removed it.

There is a special added bonus with this to boot – now, r/atheism+ can really state that EVERYONE agrees with what they say, and technically, they will be telling the truth. Who says the Naked Emperor can’t teach new tricks? This style of lie-that-isn’t-really-a-lie is his main area of expertise. (more…)

Now one handy graphic –

Clarification – not all people seem to “get” the point of this graphic due to not having been exposed to freefromthoughtblogs idiocy long enough. The citation needed! squawk is a stock standard get out of jail card used by baboons when cornered on some kind of vileness they know they can’t defend. Usually, it is about something that has been proven beyond a shadow of a doubt a 100 times previously (e.g. Watson’s calls to boycott Dawkins; her vandalism and subsequent ban from randi.org) and some new commentor points it out, without also including all of the evidence from scratch – the response is Pavlovian: Citation needed!

In many ways, this is the FfTB equivalent of the Creationist’s squawk of “but what about the gaps!”

[Apologies for a rather dry digression devoid meanie-poo-pants images (OK, there’s one), but this needed to be done. I assembled this document for one of the myriad of groups that has formed in order to resist this newly branded old idiocy from the same subnormals that brought you Elevatorgate. These suggestions are all quite serious and there’s a massive body count of folks out there that show what happens without them. Distribute this freely.]

The Dealing With Atheism+, FTB And Skepchick Survival Guide

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Preliminary Considerations

If you are capturing data about, or wanting to engage with, any of these groups, it is important to abandon all optimism and basic goodwill you would afford to regular human beings in your day-to-day interactions. It is important to consider that many, though not all, of the people involved are –

  • habitual liars that modify reality to suit on a daily basis
  • subject to Myers’ Law – https://greylining.com/2011/12/01/myers-law/ – where, most simply put, anything you communicate will be misinterpreted and used against you by any means possible
  • vicious, amoral sociopaths that CAN and WILL seek to harm you, your family or your friends personally and professionally by any means available. They have no capacity for civilized response to either criticism or satire and this is usually the only way they know how to respond

In general, especially when you are dealing with PZ Myers or his inner circle directly, it is a good rule of thumb to imagine the worst possible consequences of your actions – and then expect twice that in return. (more…)