There’s not a lot you can say about Ophelia Benson that has not been said before. She has the rare distinction of being the only freefromthoughtblogger that is capable of being even more intellectually incoherent than Greg Laden. Parallel logic anyone? Or maybe some epistemic relativism? Or how about “it’s not a Godwin when I do it”?
Of all of the repetitious reality poisoning that the Talking Prune peddles, none obsesses her to quite the same degree as the gyno-podiatry booby trap I buried deep inside an old slimepit thread where her offence truffle pigs would really have to dig for it – and dig they did, presenting it to her with squeals of triumph. What has come to pass, I now refer to as Ophelia’s Calvary – it is my gift to her, the gift of eternal martyrdom and wailing. It is not a trivial gift. I challenge anyone to match my generosity.
Indeed, almost a full year later, it seems that Ophelia can’t go more than a few hours without, once again, snarling about mean old franc, his pink gumboots and her cobweb filled cavern-of-doom. As in fact she just did at the Center for Inquiry, on a blog by Ronald Lindsay titled Divisiveness Within the Secular Movement, and of this I am glad. The Prune has strayed into territory where she has zero editorial control and no ability to comment tamper. Oversight perhaps, and certainly dangerous for one that relies so desperately on living inside a strictly controlled protective cocoon – it means ordinary folks can have an unfettered right of reply –
#27 Ophelia Benson on Wednesday September 12, 2012 at 9:42am
Franc Hoggle is weighing in! Fabulous. Hey, “Franc,” would you like to defend your much-repeated hypothetical that if you were a girl you would kick me in the cunt? Would you like to explain what a stalwart of unity and non-divisiveness you are?
How is one supposed to resist? I took up her offer, in my usual snarling, misogynist, rape-loving style –
#112 Franc Hoggle on Wednesday September 12, 2012 at 7:01pm
“#27 Ophelia Benson on Wednesday September 12, 2012 at 9:42am – Franc Hoggle is weighing in! Fabulous. Hey, “Franc,” would you like to defend your much-repeated hypothetical that if you were a girl you would kick me in the cunt?”
Actually, I would, considering you have quote mined and deformed the context from the word go. Here is the analysis of precisely how you have deformed my words to slander myself, ERV and every other critic –
https://greylining.com/2011/11/10/morphology-of-that-comment/
Not once have you quoted me correctly. Ever. Further, I invite readers to google site search FTB versus the sites Ophelia loves to slander for the “c” word. You will find Ophelia wins that race by a country mile. This is what is called BigLie repetition – repeat a falsehood often enough and it becomes an assumed truth. This is how Ophelia has slandered me, Abbie Smith and countless others. And this is the tradition Atheism+ seems to be following.
For those too lazy to follow the link, suffice it to say that, in accordance with Myers’ Law, Ophelia’s Calvary has very little in common with the original comment, nor has Ophelia ever linked directly to it’s complete, unedited form. How could she? It would risk imploding all of her carefully crafted demonology. And to provide some perspective on how much hysteria The Prune actually whips up, here is a snapshot of who’s the greatest potty mouth taken shortly before the slimepit relocating to it’s new home –
The stat for ScienceBlogs, broken down further, shows ERV accounting for less than a quarter of the overall site use, whereas on FfTB, Ophelia accounts for most of it. The most interesting stat is the last one for my place here – zero instances prior to Becky Watson’s never ending tantrum. Just goes to show that Ophelia’s campaign for linguistic purity has had the same kind of spectacular success as abstinence only sex education programs. Puritans are funny like that – they are problem factories.
As far as my comment goes, I certainly don’t expect 100% of CFI readers to be immediately swayed. But, it being in what is close to neutral territory, it has value in that previously unexposed minds may actually come to the conclusion that all is not what the FfTB propaganda department says it is. And that is good, I am not a big player. I whittle away on the side and I rouse the complacent one handful at a time. I have just snatched a few more. I think my labours in the long run have had a fair bit of effect, and that is good enough for me. And Ophelia, I know how much you toilet slugs hate dictionaries, having just recently had yet another crack at redefining misogyny (whilst pissing on Jerry Coyne and, of course, Dawkins at the same time), so I’ll leave you with some extracts. Ophelia, you are a –
- li·ar – noun, a person who tells lies.
- fraud – noun, 4. a person who makes deceitful pretenses; sham; poseur.
- char·la·tan – noun, a person who pretends or claims to have more knowledge or skill than he or she possesses; quack.
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September 13, 2012 at 7:52 pm
It’s amazing how reasoning with these people feels precisely like reasoning with fanatic theists. I mean, Franc, you realize that you’re never going to get them to give in or acknowledge any of their bs as such. You’re just doing it for everyone else to see and for those who haven’t entirely made up their minds yet.
And just like with theists, note the imbalance of the two sides wherein one side is quite ready to change their minds under the condition that sufficient evidence is produced. While the other side, the theists/baboons, would never change their views regardless of the facts.
I have yet to encounter an active critic of the baboonsexists, who hasn’t made clear that they would change their views if there was a sound reason to do so.
September 13, 2012 at 8:26 pm
None of them can admit fault.
Their next rent cheque depends utterly on continuing the dramatic lies.
September 13, 2012 at 9:40 pm
Diesirae: I mean, Franc, you realize that you’re never going to get them to give in or acknowledge any of their bs as such.
I do. I gave up the delusion that I could by my third post directly engaging the baboons. When I state “they are broken units beyond repair” I am deadly serious. Many of them are. I have expounded on this elsewhere at lenghth – it is a deadly combination of Robert Anton Wilson’s theories of stupidity* coupled with the proven brain rewiring of neuroplasticity to make the stupidity a permanent adaptation. I no longer even entertain the notion that what you say and what they hear has any meaningful relationship.
I don’t write for them. Pointless. I write for those I entertain and for those that sit on the fence, still ambivalent and still not convinced that A+ / FTB / Skepchick are what they are – amoral, self-serving sewers that are the worst thing that has ever happened to secularism.
[* This kind of stupidity is self-programmed and has nothing to do with intelligence. Briefly – “Intelligence is the capacity to receive, decode and transmit information efficiently. Stupidity is blockage of this process at any point. Bigotry, ideologies etc. block the ability to receive; robotic reality-tunnels block the ability to decode or integrate new signals; censorship blocks transmission.”]
September 14, 2012 at 1:13 am
“I no longer even entertain the notion that what you say and what they hear has any meaningful relationship.”
But there do seem to be a few general rules:
1) The English “dislike” and “disagree with”, when applied to a baboon female, are interpreted as “hate” and “want to suppress” respectively.
2) Individual female baboon names tend to be perceived as the word “women”.
3) Negative character traits used to describe a female baboon will be interpreted as an intimidating/superior positive character trait.
4) Phrases such as “because I am threatened/scared by women” may be added at will.
5) Requests that a baboon adhere to commonly held word definitions will be met with scorn and smug accusations of pedantry.
In practice, an exchange might go something like this:
English: “I disagree with Rebecca Watson”
Baboon: “You want to suppress women (because you are threatened by them)”
English: “No, I just don’t like her because she is annoying”
Baboon: “You hate confident women.”
English: “I didn’t say I hated her, I just don’t like her.”
Baboon: “Boo hoo. So sorry. I guess now I’m supposed to parrot exactly what you say or I’m wrong.”
Although it does appear that we can predict how a baboon interprets English, any meaningful communication with one is most likely impossible.
October 5, 2012 at 1:37 am
I have to say that for a while I tried to see their point and be part of the discussion. But the hypocrisy and censoring going on at Atheism+ is so staggering that I quit. Reading your blog (and other critical ones) made me realize that I am not alone in my assessment. I find it disheartening that otherwise really smart people like Matt Dillahunty defend them. Anyway, thank you for being outspoken!
October 5, 2012 at 12:45 pm
Dillahunty is a true believer –
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/True-believer_syndrome
You can take the man out of the church, but not the church out of the man. He may have renounced religion, but religious thinking still has the upper hand.
September 14, 2012 at 3:00 am
The latest from the Baboon King:
“For over a year, a number of us have been the target of genuinely hateful, irrational harassment. Rebecca Watson has been subject to the worst of it, but I get lots of it too, Ophelia Benson is threatened and hated, Freethoughtblogs is a focus of scorn, and every woman who dares to speak out against the contempt with which they are treated knows exactly what I’m talking about. This really is harassment and bullying — it’s identical to the game that deranged kook Dennis Markuze plays, only this time they have friends. It is a constant, non-stop deluge of email, twitter, and youtube comments; it is people organizing petitions to get you fired; it is “jokes” about raping you; it is people posting your home address to the cheers of people planning campaigns of harassment.”
Of course the people on FTB’s side would never even THINK about doing these things. Read the whole thing. It is truly hilarious the level of irony/ignorance/hypocrisy/playing the victim present on FTB.
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2012/09/13/repudiation/
September 14, 2012 at 2:13 pm
I don’t even know where to begin with that one. Tertiary syphilis is possibly the only rational explanation.
September 14, 2012 at 7:40 pm
And this, from the asshole that attempted to dox franc??? Is there no low that this liar will not sink? Godfuckingdamn!
September 14, 2012 at 9:53 pm
Damn! Plox warn of toxic servers… I have had a few, ok? Something like: “WARNING–don’t touch it behind 7 proxies” is the typical warning of the kids, today.
Free proxies: http://www.atproxy.net/
September 14, 2012 at 7:04 am
That woman is just priceless.
September 14, 2012 at 1:00 pm
Priceless: Of zero value.
September 14, 2012 at 2:13 pm
What price a comedy goldmine?
September 18, 2012 at 11:16 am
I wish those people would stop acting like such silly cunts all the time. I’m speaking of Ophelia Benson, PZ Myers, Jen McReight, that Lousy Canuck person, Steffy Svan, Rebecca Watson, &c. All of you people – please stop acting like cunts. Thank you.