Let’s learn a new word today. This is for the benefit of the baboons. The rest of you folks probably know this word already, and did so from junior high school because you paid attention to words for their actual meaning, and not for their emotional trigger value –
em·pir·i·cal
adjective
.
i.e. basing stuff on observable reality free of any cognitive biases. So let’s take THAT comment that has terrorised Ophelia to the point I am amazed she hasn’t sent me a laundry bill, and demystify it. Here it is in its raw form, and traced directly back to its source (the details that none of the baboons are interested in), comment #3396 at the slimepit (as the baboon’s like to call it) –
#3388 munkhaus – but what I`m posting about it the calls to “stamp out” the evil comments here by complaining to National Geographic or something.
#3389 Abbie – Now that I am more familiar with their behavior, it is more surprising the idea hasnt been brought up sooner, rather than that the idea emerged.
Why? Because the baboon board had not fully relocated. Of course, the attentive will have noted at the time that there was plenty of paranoid narcissistic mewling from The Naked One that the *reason* for the move was fear of censorship *by* Nat. Geo. – a claim laughed at with great glee, not by us, but by others in the science community.
I would encourage this move to censor Abbie. Bring on the Streisand effect. Let’s show the baboon board archives on SB in all their glory to the world.
Ophelia is a poor woman’s Catharine MacKinnon. If I was a girl, I’d kick her in the cunt. Cunt.
Posted by: Franc Hoggle | October 14, 2011 8:29 PM
That’s it in its unedited entirety. The quoted comments are in reference to freethoughtblogs.com now unambiguous stance as a pro-censorship organisation (and bottom of post here), willing and ready to organise petitions and form letters to demand the censorship and/or removal of websites that deviate from approved groupthink.
Of course it’s only the last 12 words that are of any interest to the baboon board, and it is only they that are getting regurgitated ad nauseam with a literalist fervor that makes Creationists seem like Doubting Thomases. The true meaning, of course, is that this is a direct threat of violence against the Talking Prune, and that there is reason enough to be terrified and begin notifying police and atheist organisations globally. Seriously.
Now most non-baboon’s first response on stepping back and viewing the larger mass of all the gibbering and caterwauling is – “WTF? So Franc is saving up for a sex-change just so he can track the Talking Prune down and kick her in the cunt? Right? That’s the only way I can read it as realistic… Are these loons serious???”
Uhuh. Apparently they are. Amazing isn’t it? This is how seriously off the rails the Baboon King and his troop have become.
Truth be told, it was all a premeditated exercise in unmasking the deeper inner imbecile of the already imbecilic baboon horde – it was stated as such in the same thread and repeated over and over since – by feeding them a nonsense hypothetical and just letting them run with it. And of course, none of the baboons ever look at the other words that surround the cherries they pick. So run with it they did. It’s the gift that just keeps on giving. Best pay-off for lobbed flame bait I have ever had, by a long country mile. Except it wasn’t lobbed anywhere, it was confined to our own sewer and they had to come, like truffle pigs, and dig for it.
The motivation for the crafting was the months of relentless, and continuing, campaigning from the Talking Prune to slander both Abbie Smith and ERV by rote posting and commenting items en masse linking Abbie, “rape apologetics”, violence against women and what is alleged “language of rape” – but always, ALWAYS containing multiple instances of the word “cunt” attributed to Abbie – thereby permanently poisoning Abbie’s name and reputation as far as search engines go. In other words – an assassination of character. It is an act of pure dried up cunt malice, much the same as has been done to others, and of course, entirely devoid of references, substance or evidence. In other words, baboon board standard operating procedure. And the same as what’s being done to me now, and then to the next person that dares to speak back that the pack thinks they can isolate and corner. Then the next… and the next… The blood on the altar must never be allowed to dry. Burp. “Freethinkers”. Yes they are. It says so on their logo.
It took the baboons over a day to notice, and the response was rapier like, #3415 –
If I was a girl, I’d kick her in the cunt. Cunt.
No.
Posted by: SC (Salty Current) | October 15, 2011 10:10 PM
Uhuh. What? The baboon brain at work. There’s is no telling what the actual point of this was. Which was followed by several dozen carbon copies of the above. I called it “retard roll-call”; someone else informed it was something called #occupyERV, apparently an effort to completely destroy the ERV discussion by a variant of the all powerful Pharyngulation – something which is supposed to make the targets spontaneously void their bowels and fall prostrate before the awesomeness of the Naked One’s horde… Who knows? After 40-50 of these monkey-see-monkey do items, they dried up – and that’s supposed to make a difference in a thread heading towards 5,000 posts? This is the power of the baboon board nowadays – its like the short drunk lesbian in the pub that’s ready to take everybody on: either gets ignored, or if too pushy, ends up smeared all over the floor like a bug. Add toothlessness to mindlessness.
That was pretty much the sum of their vandalism on this occasion. Seems nowadays, the minions have learned the lessons of their master and no longer venture out of the safety of their lairs – they know only cruelty they lack the wits to deal with awaits, and so just stay at home and snarl at each other and spit poison over the walls of the Iron Curtain at those outside they despise.
There’s been a dozen are more threads spawned so far by cunt kick, all recycling the same mindless, unreferenced slurs at Abbie, myself, and anyone else that has the audacity to pipe up in opposition to the Iranian cleric-like fem-bot routines led mostly by the Prune, but ably supported by the Big Baboon and this thing that calls itself Zvan. Greg Laden, probably the most dull-witted and desperate of the lot, pipes in where he can to try and pathetically redirect hits back to his own waste of space blog (hell, he even fishes for hits here, that’s how down and out he is).
Most of it, including the calls for my arrest and denunciation to the Global Atheist Convention, can be found here if you have the stomach. Latest, they appear to be tearing Michael Kingsford Gray’s throat out for trying to be reasonable, and the unspeakable linguistic atrocity du jour is some internal bitch fight about use of the word “lady”. NO I AM NOT KIDDING. This is what these losers do with their lives. It’s a CAREER.
So this is it – another snapshot of those that brag about themselves as the finest minds that secularism has to offer. And the most pressing issue of the day they can think of to babble about is a word game they fail to comprehend, that exploits their Pavlovian responses to known keywords – a play on their stupidity that goes flying stratospherically over their heads. What a fine set of priorities. Taking a cherry picked string of words, stripping it of all context and injecting it with concocted hate. No mention whatsoever of the issues I was addressing – the censorship, the threats, the blacklists, the shunning and all the other Stalinist shenanigans they seem to think are what being “progressive” is all about. And interest in reality? Zero. These are people who’s only priority seems to be scaring themselves to death.
Most depressingly of all, the CFI promote and subsidise many of these baboons. Then have the audacity to cry poor and whine they are losing membership. Goodness, what a surprise. I think CFI can be written off as lost cause at this point and the sooner it implodes the better. Then maybe something with substance can get resurrected from the wreckage.
On a cheerier note, you can also enjoy The Naked Emperor trying his hand at the Rev. Jim Jones routine, singing the praises of FTB, his very own Guyana –
You can almost smell those heretics burning now can’t you? Awesome. Any shrinks in the audience that specialise in language? I would love to hear what you think.
November 10, 2011 at 1:00 am
Their plan is failing. Just google “cunt Abbie”. My eyes!
November 10, 2011 at 1:04 am
Heh, yeah. Abbie’s lucky she has a common name. It’s the thought that counts though isn’t it? Why generate so many substanceless micro-articles that repeat the same keywords though? The Prune has been doing this for months.
November 10, 2011 at 8:05 am
What my brain read:
“Its the thought that cunts…”
November 10, 2011 at 1:13 am
Franc – I complement you on your attention to detail and your recording of history from the Freethought blog. I have been commenting of Benson’s Butterflies and Wheels blog over the past weeks. Benson was not happy with my comments even though I was on topic. I mostly just disagreed with her post and I told her so. Benson emailed me with a warning that I should “improve my game” or she would moderate me. I guess it is her blog and she can do what she wants. I just want everyone to know that she will control the content of her blog.
What bothered me the most about Benson is that she edited one of my comments. By removing some of the content of my comment she changed the meaning of my entire statement. This resulted in me looking foolish since my comment was incomplete and out of context. I was not smart enough to screen copy my comment before she edited it. I am also upset that she does not allow me to delete my comment even after she edited it.
So be warned everyone. Ophelia Benson DOES edit the comments on her blog. She DOES take your comments out of context and then she DOES NOT allow you to fix them or put back the original content or even delete the bastardized statement she left.
Benson has no integrity!
November 10, 2011 at 1:22 am
Let that be a lesson. Even Nixon was smart enough to record things on his end. But then he went stupid and erased the records.
I don’t post on any of their blogs without screen capping before, during and after. I needn’t do this often considering I rarely have a reason to post there in the first case. I’ve posted among them more often than Franc has, and I’m not exactly all unicorns and rainbows. But somehow he’s a ‘bully’? Bullies don’t notoriously wait in their own homes, or those of their friends for their intended victims to one day, perhaps, wander in.
Oh no! He’s a Penis Fly Trap!
November 10, 2011 at 1:29 am
She doesn’t “edit”. She “epistemically relativises”.
Really, with all the evidence collated to date, it is perfectly clear you can’t trust these shitsacks with *anything*. There is *no* act that is too low. At all. It’s the most completely amoral cesspit on the web. You must screen cap. And when you find tampering, document it on the wiki.
November 10, 2011 at 5:39 am
Irony! Guess who wrote this:
“Great. My comment is awaiting moderation. I get accused of telling falsehoods, but in stronger langauge than that – and my reply is stuck in moderation.
This blog is such a slum.”
November 10, 2011 at 5:46 am
The Pope?
November 10, 2011 at 9:52 am
Adolph Hitler?
November 10, 2011 at 10:12 am
Oscar Wilde.
November 10, 2011 at 12:58 pm
Catharine MacKinnon? Bet I’m warmest.
November 10, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Richard Nixon!
November 10, 2011 at 1:28 am
FFTB as a whole is the “progressive” World Net Daily, as if the world didn’t have enough lunatic asylums.
November 10, 2011 at 1:32 am
I think it’s more Pyongyang Times.
November 10, 2011 at 2:05 am
From the Lousy Canuck blog post: “That said, it’s been explained to me that just by being on the male side of the privilege imbalance, any reference to the gender of the unprivileged is pretty much sexist by default — e.g. telling a woman that it looks like rain, per Becca’s comment, is mansplaining where a woman telling a man it looks like rain is perfectly acceptable. So referring to her gender while telling her that she’s sans clue, suggests that she’s sans clue because of her gender (though, again, I don’t know that that rises to the level of slur in context).”
Welp, as we say on the *chans:
>this is what feminists actually believe
I’ve actually been advocating for you on the same blog, but I’ve given up. These people are basically sticking to the story that you’re the second of Dennis Marzuke, and they’re not even the least bit incredulous even given the possibility that PZ, Benson, etc. have spun this ridiculous personal safety hysteria to distract from the fact that they’ve failed to respond to anything you’ve said about them.
November 10, 2011 at 2:10 am
That’s because its the People’s Democratic Republic of North Pharyngula and the Emperor is infallible (and has very nice clothes).
The reason they don’t repond is that they cannot answer anything I say – at all. There has never, in the 100s of comments they used to leave here, until I collated them into one page to make the stupidity totally visible, not *one* ever addressed a single point. They can’t, so they won’t.
This is groupthink that’s armor plated.
November 10, 2011 at 5:26 am
No.
November 10, 2011 at 9:10 am
Franc, I hesitate to say this, because I generally agree with you. I think Watson and Benson are paranoid lightweight lowlifes, and I’ve lost all respect for Myers. But when those assholes accuse you of obsessing, they might actually have something of a point, given how much you blog about them. I know you have a wide variety of interests; I miss reading about those other things from you.
And when you say things like, “It’s the most completely amoral cesspit on the web”, I can forgive a little hyperbole, but really, I’m not sure how you can say such a thing with a straight face, considering that the whole internet is pretty much an amoral cesspit, and surely there are millions of sites that are considerably worse than FTB. Almost any rabidly right-wing political site is going to be at least as lynch-mobby and censorial.
The facts are damning enough. You don’t need to overstate your case.
November 10, 2011 at 9:57 am
I think that Franc is far more concerned about general principles being tortured & raped, rather than any individual vandals.
And I agree with him, if that is the case.
Given the gist of your response, you should also advise the police to ignore all shop-lifters, as the crims are petty thieves.
Support of rational integrity doesn’t work that way.
November 10, 2011 at 1:03 pm
Precisely – a point I keep stressing is I try to play the ball, not the man. The baboons do nothing but the reverse. When you are discussing the corruption of freethinking itself, and the usual suspects pop up so consistently, it is easy, and convenient, to then accuse me of being on personal vendettas. This is no such thing – this is a defense of actual freethought. However, the Prune and the Baboon are such humungous abusers here, it impossible to discuss any of this corruption without citing them as perfect examples.
November 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm
MKG, I get that Franc is concerned with upholding general principles, and I strongly support him in that. The gist of my response is hardly what you take it to be. There is a difference between holding people accountable and obsessing over them; judging by Franc’s blog output of late, one could be forgiven for concluding he might be engaged in the latter. I’m not particularly worried about Franc’s state of mental health, and of course his time is his own to do with as he pleases, but it sure seems that he’s giving the baboon squad some ammunition that he doesn’t really need to. They’re going to make shit up about him anyhow. And to the extent that hyperbole overstates (and thus distorts) reality, support for rational integrity actually demands that we stick to the facts.
November 10, 2011 at 1:50 pm
Spice, see below –
https://greylining.com/2011/11/10/morphology-of-that-comment/#comment-3158
November 10, 2011 at 10:54 am
Hi Spice,
I think that since that facts are clear to us, it may cloud our judgement as to just how difficult it is for most to give up their allegiance, it seems that the majority of PZ’s supporters have been coming to the same conclusion, although some at an alarmingly slow pace.
This is the anti FFB. I like that.
I would have agreed with you about Franc ignoring other subjects a few months ago, and I have mentioned that to him, but now that it has gotten personal and they have “threatened” to go to the “authorities” and have created this fantasy of Franc Hoggle – dangerous one, I am quite enjoying their acrobatics that prove Franc correct.
I also enjoy the numerous daily comments here. I dearly miss what we had at the original NN, the comraderie, laughter, and consistent conversation, and I find myself drawn here for that reason as well.
November 10, 2011 at 10:57 am
that was meant to say:
I think that since the facts are clear to us…
and
FTB not FFB
November 10, 2011 at 1:07 pm
What is NN, if I may?
November 10, 2011 at 1:15 pm
OL: “No Nonsense” – an actual skeptic group amongst a sea of pseudo-skeptic groups on one of the big atheist social sites that has also been overrun by baboons. Most of its membership no longer felt welcome at the site and abandoned it, some were purged from the site for thoughtcrime. Another new, new atheist success story. Shame, because it was an oasis of genuine, no prisoners, no sacred cows skepticism. You can see the residue and archives here –
http://www.atheistnexus.org/group/nononsense
November 10, 2011 at 7:13 pm
Overlord, if you decide to browse there, start at the beginning, page 243 of the comments, well you can ignore the very first comment.
It was brilliant… and then, over.
November 10, 2011 at 12:18 pm
I have to agree with spicer here, and Franc has also said elsewhere (skepticasm over a month ago) that he knows he walks a thin line. I wonder what we could do in meatspace to undermine the platform being provided to the baboon. I became a member of AA a short while ago, but the leaders there are very careful to avoid infights, and dont bring up these topics. They know that RW is a charlatan.. but they seem to be happy to be associated with the baboon.
November 10, 2011 at 12:31 pm
Spice, several points. First, they just keep providing so much material, that I keep getting distracted from other articles which are a growing pile. Second, the baboons have graduated from the first phase of virtually calling for book burnings to the second stage where they are burning people. Aside from what they are doing to me, which is irritant value and no more, look at what they have been doing to others –
http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/Phawrongula_Wiki#Articles
They are actively trying to destroy people to the point of threatening livelihoods. I have had contact from several professional women in academia that have dissented and then been threatened into silence because there is a real risk to their tenures. This *is* McCarthyism. There is a sinister malignance running underneath all this that should be of concern to everybody. It is an amoral cesspit – they destroy others for personal gain, and just plain spite, as though they were cockroaches. The other word for this is psychopathy.
November 10, 2011 at 1:54 pm
Again, I agree that what they are doing is wrong, and they should be called out for it. But also again, there is a difference between burning someone in effigy and actually burning them. Unless you mean damaging their personal and professional reputations, in which case you should say that. Galileo was not, after all, actually executed. Asserting that the church actually did so weakened RW’s assault on same. You are unlikely to make the same kind of mistake that RW did thru simple ignorance, but you may well thru overstatement.
Again, what they are doing is bad enough, and needs to be publicized. You don’t need to give them ammo.
November 10, 2011 at 2:24 pm
Spice: But also again, there is a difference between burning someone in effigy and actually burning them.
To you perhaps. But to me, intent of malice and actuation of malice is only separated by fear of repercussion. Burning effigies is a poor analogy – it is not the same as deliberate, protracted character assassination. We have been given a taste of what happens here when the barrier of repercussion is removed. Watson’s behaviour at randi.org, where she stupidly thought she could get away with everything. She summarily executed the identities of other members because she assumed no one would know.
I don’t know about you, but I don’t know anyone that I detest enough, even amongst the baboons, that I would take the step of executing their identity. It is the online equivalent of murder. It is a final taboo, a line you do not cross.
Again, what they are doing is bad enough, and needs to be publicized. You don’t need to give them ammo.
As I have explained to sugar buns and others – I occupy a niche. I know I walk a fine line. I offer part critique, part performance art. Part exposure, but mostly unmasking. What you criticise me for is precisely what has been unmasking the baboons and exposing their true nature via their own responses.
I have no desire to be a spokesperson – I only desire to spur others into verifying my observations for themselves, and then taking whatever action their conscience dictates. Of course, the baboons can’t separate the concept of “action” from “threat” and/or “sexual violence”. That can’t be helped, and yes they will keep poisoning people’s reputations because of this. But that is the very reason they must be resisted. They are a cult, they wallow in victimhood and slave morality, and they need scapegoats to feed off, without whom they are nothing. That is why they are doing so much harm to secularism.
So either give a fuck, or don’t. At least I am doing something about it.
November 10, 2011 at 3:24 pm
There may be a fine line between critique and performance art, but there is an even finer line between performance art and trolling. (Actually, my opinion of performance art is so low that I’m not sure there is a distinction, but I won’t quibble on this point.)
Once again, I don’t dispute what you’re saying about the baboon board, Franc, and I totally agree that they should be exposed, and I further agree that they will hang themselves on their own words. My point is that they don’t actually seem to need any provocation to their stupidity, apart from simple disagreement (that’s all you need to get branded a rape apologist or gender traitor). Why not just stick to that? It’ll certainly get the job done.
Regardless, you really have to be careful you don’t do what you’re accusing others of. On the one hand you say, “But to me, intent of malice and actuation of malice is only separated by fear of repercussion.” Isn’t this precisely the line they take on the baboon board regarding you, assuming that your ideological opposition will inevitably lead you to violence? As you point out, “Of course, the baboons can’t separate the concept of “action” from “threat” and/or “sexual violence”. I suppose you have some distinction in mind here, but these sure *sound* like a similar blurring of the line between word and deed.
It’s not that I don’t give a fuck, Franc. It’s that it seems as though you are kicking a beehive. That might be amusing or even worthwhile in the short term, but after a while, it just consumes you. Haven’t you already accomplished your goal of exposing Myers and Watson as the petty, illogical creatures they are? You’ve convinced me, as well as a number of others. If you are trying to take down CFI by association, well, good luck. They are a large and highly distributed organization. If you are trying to undermine this ridiculous hand-wringing over so-called feminism in the secular community, you’ve already skewered that, and now you run the risk of elevating a passing fad into an epic struggle. Of course, it’s possible I’m wrong about it being a passing fad, but it sure seems to me that the correct answer to complaints that there aren’t enough women in the secular movement is to point out that there in fact are a lot of quite accomplished women in the movement. Don’t get distracted with this faux feminist bullshit. It didn’t really catch on in the 60s, when the ground was considerably more fertile.
November 10, 2011 at 3:39 pm
Spice: There may be a fine line between critique and performance art, but there is an even finer line between performance art and trolling.
Look, just point out where you think I have transgressed. All of this “theory” makes you sound like Greta Christina. I now the limits, and stay inside them – if I’ve erred, say how. I also do not “troll”, as I don’t say anything that is really any different to what I have said to you or others in the past. They key difference is you have the intellect to understand subtleties – the baboons do not.
It’s that it seems as though you are kicking a beehive.
No, that time is past. As I have said, they are now actively seeking to harm people that deviate from ideology by threatening livelihoods and in one instance even trying to derail a persons application for a job. This is no longer a trivial case of “kicking a beehive” for kicks.
If you are trying to take down CFI by association
I’ve discussed the systemic deterioration of CFI over the last few years – I am not “associating”, I am drawing on what is actually happening. Read this before you repeat more statements like the above –
https://greylining.com/2011/08/11/cficsiskepchick-theory-of-courtiers/
This is quite simply a coup by fascist elements within the secular community to impose a narrow and bigoted ideology on what should be ideology free, over represented perhaps by gender feminists, but this is always a natural fit for them. The love corpses hanging from gibbets.
November 10, 2011 at 4:20 pm
jayrayspicer:
So are the Mafia.
The CFI have managed to take down themselves very effectively over the last few years, without external assistance, thank you.
They, by dint of their own foolishness, have rendered themselves as as irrelevant to the Skeptical cause as the Templeton Foundation.
The last straw for me was when they hired the simpering block-head “Chris Mooney”.
November 10, 2011 at 5:35 pm
Not sure where I waxed theoretical, but you say, “They key difference is you have the intellect to understand subtleties – the baboons do not.” Right. From their perspective, you’re just a meanie. It’s like kicking a dog. From our perspective, you’ve already convinced us. By all means continue exposing them, but there’s no point in nuance (or hyperbole). It’s either preaching to the choir or falling on deaf ears.
And I still don’t see how you reconcile the two things you said in a previous post. These sound the same to me:
“But to me, intent of malice and actuation of malice is only separated by fear of repercussion.”
“Of course, the baboons can’t separate the concept of ‘action’ from ‘threat’ and/or ‘sexual violence’.”
In both cases, not being nice on the internet is equated with being dangerous IRL. Even if they actually are and you’re actually not, it *sounds* like a double standard.
November 10, 2011 at 5:53 pm
Spice, why do you assume I am writing for them OR the “choir”? I write for neither. Ultimately I write only for me. And there is a very diverse and substantial audience throughput here, with a very low “bounce” rate (which means people are reading at least something). It is not a binary system. Some people simply just read me because I am entertaining. Can you believe that? Do not flatter the baboons by reinforcing the idea that I do it for them. This is what feeds their “he’s a dangerous stalker” meme and just reinforces their narcissism. They are my last concern. The politics and psychology of the derangement they preach are the main issue – and you have known me long enough to know this is not a new drum I’m beating – this kind of poisonous thinking well predates the time I even knew who Miss Piggy was, and I have been writing about it for far longer than that.
“But to me, intent of malice and actuation of malice is only separated by fear of repercussion.”
Again, that is quite simple. Perhaps the Stanford prison experiment is the best example, where once social inhibition was removed, atrocity came naturally to many that were “reasonable” before. Some people are only “ethical” due to fear of punishment forcing them to be, others are ethical regardless any circumstance. Let me ask you – given absolute power, what likelihood do you give of Pharyngudrone re-education gulags? I’d never entertain the idea of doing it to them. But what do you think the reverse position would be?
“Of course, the baboons can’t separate the concept of ‘action’ from ‘threat’ and/or ‘sexual violence’.”
That they have not the remotest idea of the difference between the “man” and the “ball” – unlike rational folks who understand that different opinion exists, they view all disagreement as personal attack and hatred. Retarded spoiled children.
November 10, 2011 at 6:15 pm
Truly physically do it in the real world?
My bet would be 101% likelihood.
They already have most of the infrastructure, guards, wardens and impossible-to-follow rules in place.
For they are already executing same behind their comfortably censored and revisionist electron-powered imaginary fortifications.
That most of the vocal combatant cowards who clamour for “outing” are utterly anonymous – amuses me.
November 11, 2011 at 12:23 am
Franc, I think what people are saying is that they would like to read about something ELSE just for once. Surely there’s something else that you can write about. Lots of stupidity in the world that’s not limited to Myers and Watson, etc. Certainly carry on with this stuff, but really, it’s bordering on obsession at this point, and getting a bit tiresome.
November 11, 2011 at 12:57 am
H, I keep meaning to but –
a) they just overwhelm you with so much stupid on a daily basis, its an infinite resource, and
b) in case you didn’t notice, they have progressed from merely wanting to make lists of prohibited books (they don’t have the tits for public burnings… yet) to systematically attacking people and their livelihoods to silence dissent. And just look at the manner with which they escalated their thuggery with me when their conventional methods don’t work. Seriously – reports to police? Official dangerous maniac warnings sent to GAC? Most of the baboon army filtering through the entire internet for damaging information to expose me? This is the Stasi at work. You’re calling ME obsessive?
And you think I should just drop it because it bores you? Sincerely, I would like to write about other stuff. But the damage that the baboons are doing to secularism is growing, and their methods are growing ever more reprehensible. Sorry, but this is something that really needs doing. There are real people out there that these assholes are attempting to destroy because they refuse to submit to their faith. I think thats just a wee bit important. Don’t you?
November 11, 2011 at 10:05 am
H:
There is a very simple 2 step solution to your boredom:
1) Stop complaining that others aren’t doing it to YOUR tastes, and Start your OWN blog that does.
2) Stop reading articles that bore you.
Simple.
Let us know when you have done this.
November 11, 2011 at 12:34 pm
Gosh, thanks, MKG. Neither of your two bullet points would have occurred to me. You know what? Upon close analysis, fuck you. I offered sincere constructive criticism and you’ve jumped all over me just like any of the baboons would have, imputing an agenda on my part that doesn’t exist, and inviting me to shut the fuck up and leave. Right back atcha, asshole. Franc doesn’t need you to stick up for him, he’s doing fine. I know he knows I’m not his enemy. You seem to be a little unclear on that, so let me rephrase my opening salvo: Fuck off.
November 11, 2011 at 1:43 pm
Spice, please, no trigger-happy baboonery here. MKG wasn’t referring to you. Several comments up – “H”. You normally pay more attention than that.
November 11, 2011 at 3:12 pm
Franc, you’re right, I missed that he addressed his latest irritation against H, but since H is essentially giving the shorthand version of what I said, I think I will go ahead and stand by my rant. MKG is making unwarranted assumptions about motives on the part of others. That’s what the baboons do.
November 11, 2011 at 3:15 pm
Ok, here’s some plastic sheets and bucket of jello.
November 11, 2011 at 4:53 pm
“Ok, here’s some plastic sheets and bucket of jello.”
Finally now we’re getting somewhere.
November 11, 2011 at 12:42 am
jay-your post would be labeled as “tone trolling” on FFTB.
Instead you received civil responses directly addressing your specific inquiry.
Dissent is absolutely vital to a free society. Rather than be bullied or scolded into not speaking out against the abuses of a tyranny and his sycophantic goon squad, Franc heroically refuses to back down. He provides a vital voice, speaking out for those of us who can’t.
How about you ask the big baboon board why they keep generating to much idiotic material to confirm the moral bankruptcy of atheism? Should Christians silently put up with the WBC? Should moderate Muslims condone terrorism in the name of Allah? There is so much damage to be mitigated by extremists. Outsider criticism is meaningless to the rest of the community. But peers had a shred of credibility with the sane group members and can’t be so easily dismissed by impugning motives
November 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Just saw this t-shirt: made me think of this thread immediately:
November 10, 2011 at 12:23 pm
Ah, crap: just try this:
November 10, 2011 at 12:51 pm
Thanks, that deserves an embed –
November 11, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Oh shit, that’s precious! New FB status!
November 12, 2011 at 4:07 am
Heard of grope cunt lane?
November 12, 2011 at 11:00 am
that’s great Astro
November 10, 2011 at 6:59 pm
sugar buns… smile
November 10, 2011 at 7:35 pm
Oh, and you to of course.
January 3, 2012 at 1:53 am
[…] (Felch Grogan/Franc Hoggle/etc., 2011) […]
July 25, 2012 at 6:32 am
[…] Franc Hoggle was considered by some among this lot to be the worst offender in this regard, and was blamed for much of the condemnation that the Slime Pit was receiving, mainly for crossing the line when it came to language. The image above highlights Hoggle’s most controversial comment yet – a comment, that would be used by FTB to smear all of the regular commenters at ERV as those that condone violence against women. To anyone with sense, the comment was intended as hyperbole. As you will see in my comment that I’m now posting below, Hoggle did it for a very deliberate reason. […]
July 5, 2013 at 4:27 am
[…] Nugent acknowledges that it can be difficult to ‘draw a line’ concerning whether nasty pushback people experience online is morally justified, so he provides a list of comments — without any links or context — to a forum I post in called the Slymepit (not before providing a trigger warning and a reminder of a trigger warning). Answering to all fifty items Nugent provides, none of them authored by me, and most of them unrecognized by me, would be quite the daunting task; it is simply too much to reasonably expect me to do…so I will take a line from Greta Christina and say I could write an entire novel about what’s wrong with Nugent’s post, but I just don’t have the time. The first comment Nugent lists, though, is explained by the author here. […]