Yawn. More evidence of what a malignant toad PZ Myers is –
Not that I particularly care about the baboon slandering me, but it does go to show to the level to which he’ll stoop. Myers is quite content to equate me to David Mabus / Dennis Markuze without a second thought. Hardly a trivial slur – and a deliberate and premeditated one. He is quite happy to initiate a slander that could get a person placed on a “no fly” watch list.
This is a marked shift from simple “you have a tiny penis” insult to deliberate association with a potentially dangerous individual with identified psychological instability. It says much more about Myers’ character than it does mine – there really is no level to which the baboon will not go to in damaging those that deviate from his ideological preaching.
Of course his other baboons waste no time in echoing his idiocy –
This is beyond common abuse. This is malice designed to damage. Charming.
This is the public face of the new, new atheism that claims to be your public voice.
Addendum –
There does not appear to be any realistic limit to the derangememt as the baboons bounce the hyperbole of each other.
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Yes, I’d like to hear what’s stated in the report.
elaine: He threatened to kick me in the cunt.
cop: Cunt?
elaine: Well not mine actually. Someone else’s.
cop: Uhuh?
elaine: But only if he was a girl.
cop: Ok. And I need to drop everything I’m doing right now?
elaine: Yes.
cop: And let me guess, I’m supposed to take you seriously too?
elaine: Yes. I’m a taxpayer.
We need a good famine.
grey lining 
November 4, 2011 at 10:33 am
Franc. PZ has a bit of clout with the organisers, or so I gather.
If it is not just empty self-important testosterone-fuelled puffed-up posturing bluster it might get some traction.
November 4, 2011 at 10:40 am
PZ, Rorschach, and the rest of the baboon hoard are frickin insane. They are the most abusive atheists on the net using abusive hyperbolic lies to slander every person they see as an enemy of their pet ideas. I know this, as it happened to me.
This latest display is the most extreme of their unfounded hyperbolic bull-shit accusations.
Here is a shout out to you PZ (I know you are watching)…. you are the kind of guy my kids would call a douche. Grow up… you are a disgrace!
November 4, 2011 at 11:11 am
Better make sure you shave or you’ll end up labelled a terrorist…
November 4, 2011 at 12:22 pm
So PZ wants you banned from the conference because you post stuff, on your own blog, that he disagrees with?
The guys a fucking joke.
November 4, 2011 at 12:34 pm
No he wants Franc banned because he’s a “psychotic” and a “misogynist” and he “could be disruptive,” not at all because he disagrees.
November 4, 2011 at 12:35 pm
Oh and because Franc has a small penis. Says so in his bio! Internet never lies.
November 4, 2011 at 1:26 pm
It just keeps getting weirder. See addendum.
November 4, 2011 at 1:30 pm
What? You expect even a modicum of sanity from an acolyte of his Church of Hypocrisy?
Expect 101% true derangement from most of them, most of the time.
Expect PZ to not correct them either, thereby tacitly agreeing with them.
November 4, 2011 at 2:12 pm
dude, the conversation with the cop is so hilarious…I was laughing out loud as if I were watching ‘curb your enthusiasm’.
November 4, 2011 at 12:26 pm
PZ Myers has over stepped the mark with that slander. Plus, everyone on PZ’s site have shown that they have the same mentality that schoolyard bullies do. Which is pretty pathetic when you think about it.
November 4, 2011 at 1:07 pm
not one threat.
not one email.
not one stalking incident of any kind.
not one phone call.
not one incoherent rant.
November 4, 2011 at 1:27 pm
= Zero Bad.
I think that PZ felt left out of the femtheist spotlight by Watson’s monopolisation of the ‘phantom concocted non-existent 5 second-rapist’ paranoia-meme, and has made Franc his personal “Elevator Guy” to compensate for the loss of idiot-cred.
It won’t be long before he invents a new medical condition to explain his startlingly obvious hypocrisy!
November 4, 2011 at 1:34 pm
Indeed.
I had a longer comment ready to go, but you’ve written what I would have expressed quite succinctly, sacha.
November 4, 2011 at 1:43 pm
thank you, Stephen
it is a pleasure to see you, as always.
November 5, 2011 at 1:00 am
Most welcome, sacha.
I mostly lurk. Usually people have already said what I would have so my comment becomes redundant. And a simple fly-by “I agree” (or words to such effect) is not my preference. But I felt compelled for this post.
November 5, 2011 at 1:35 am
Fly-by AOL-type “I agree” posts often reinforce the often (seemingly) fragile contradictions to orthodoxy, and as such are often valuable.
November 4, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Demons are real, and set upon destroying our world!
(I blame the demons for me forgetting to check the follow-up comments box. But I thwart them this time!)
November 4, 2011 at 1:42 pm
and not one incitement of violence of any kind.
and for the baboons that make the strawman of threat and mention his
“if i were a girl, I’d kick her in the cunt, cunt”
they may want to consider how many times women have said about a man they dislike “kick him in the balls” and laughed hysterically. Even on talk shows, reality teevee and sitcoms in the western world. Should the “authorities” be notified about them?
What about all the US liberals devoting entire blogs to their hate of the tea party, using the most visable and vocal examples repeatedly. They have a constant stream of bile, even some of it libel and propaganda (yes, there is libel and propaganda on both sides) should they be reported?
What about the SPCA who picket, write letters to the government, organise rallies, create petitions, write blog after blog and make video after video about better conditions for animals raised for food (just one of many of their dedicated causes), they infuriate the meat industry, the factory farming, they cost them a lot of money, and they disrupt their businesses. They are non-stop in their campaign to change laws. They do absolutely nothing illegal, but they certainly have many who not only disagree, but are angry. Should the SPCA be reported to the authorities?
This is an attempt to frighten us, and a cowardly tactic (not a surprise). It is the equivalent of the bully threatening to beat up the smart kid after school.
Franc has done nothing but disagree, and show them for the frauds and puritans, and non-critical thinkers that they are, he has clearly proven that there is a serious problem in the atheist and skeptic communities and the most visible and vocal members of that group are used as perfect examples. He has done it with articulate, precise posts on his own blog.
There are many who not only agree, but are extremely happy that someone is exposing the fraud, the meme, and the players.
regardless it is free speech, something I thought they were all for, even if they disagree,
and as I have said previously, they are bluffing. I’d love to play poker with them, the transparency is palatable
Does anyone think for one minute that Rebecca Watson would not rush to make a video and dedicate her blog to tell the world who Franc is, if she knew?
You are all a disgrace. Proof positive that Franc has been correct all along. Well done.
November 4, 2011 at 2:12 pm
Crap. I used to be all edgy and cool when I said I was an atheist. Now I will be associated with a bunch of progressive cry-baby nitwits. I don’t even want to tell people I am an atheist because so many of the “new new” ones turn out to be such hysterical fuck-wits. God damn. Sometimes the world sucks.
I used to have fantasies about running some scam to take money away from the shit-head religious people. Now I have fantasies about taking money away for idiot anarchist, globe hugging, fembot moralizers. At least I could always say that the religious shit-heads were indoctrinated and abused. I don’t have any such excuse for these new “free-thinking” twats. They are just fucking idiotic and have no excuses!
Shit… the world has changed and it feels just as stupid as it did before. I wonder when the machines will take over.
November 4, 2011 at 3:13 pm
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. My sentiments exactly.
November 4, 2011 at 3:52 pm
“I used to have fantasies about running some scam to take money away from the shit-head religious people. Now I have fantasies about taking money away for idiot anarchist, globe hugging, fembot moralizers.”
hahahahahaha
Why not, that is what Rebecca Watson does.
November 4, 2011 at 2:56 pm
It’s ridiculous the lengths they’ll go to, in talking themselves into becoming scared of Franc. Each one notches it up a little until you’ve got Franc going to the conference with intentions of insulting all women, and obviously raping everyone too, so the cops and organizers better be made aware.
November 4, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Franc: Do you have in Australia what we have in the U.S.–something called an “order for protection” that you can get proactively against ppl who threaten you in any way?
But you might want to be pre-emptive atthis point and protect yourself, your space, and your right to not be harassed slandered, or stalked in your own country by a rabid, threatening foreigner.
And I am sure the Cops in Melbourne just love ‘outspoken atheists,’ who stalk or harass the locals from an entire ocean away–and then show up at your door! I mean, turf wars over atheism? He’s lost his last shred of self respect.
It’s a two way ocean–or so I heard. And really, the bullying by that guy has to stop.
November 4, 2011 at 3:59 pm
Take it from me. Melbourne coppers have far better things with which to occupy their time. (I expect that most of them are staunch atheists anyway, as are most sane folk here in Oz.)
They would larf you out of the station door, and rightly so.
November 4, 2011 at 4:55 pm
Fuck me, I’m in Oz too. There must be something in the water 😛
November 4, 2011 at 5:04 pm
Yeah: Barley malt & hops!
November 4, 2011 at 4:37 pm
Holy fuck…
And as to Hoggle: he’s in Australia!? And might be at GAC??? Eeep!! I want to know now so that I can avoid him. This is not an ethical argument, this is an emotional reaction – partly of disgust, and partly of fear for myself and others. I would certainly not want any woman to be left alone with him, and if we knew, we could help to protect each other.
linky
I don’t know whether to laugh or be disgusted.
November 4, 2011 at 4:57 pm
Well, I specifically want to be with Franc at the GAC 2012.
I’d feel far less threatened with a straight-talker such as him, rather than someone who is so utterly bonkers, crazy, mad as a cut-snake, lunatic, insane and irrational enough to take a perfectly innocent “no”, and twist it into a “near rape”, or to conflate rational disagreement with stalking.
Now THAT is genuinely frightening.
I certainly would not want to get into an elevator with any of the horde without a lawyer and a film-crew.
November 4, 2011 at 5:17 pm
It’s looking like they are holding an Olypmpic springboard diving contest to see who can execute the most spectacular quadruple-somersault panty-twist springing from the spring-board[1] supporting least[2] evidence.
I am putting even odds on PeeZus placing a solid first, with Aunty Ophelia coming a close second, and Penfold coming in a disappointing third place.
_______________
[1] The horde-spring-board that they all employ to jump to absurd conclusions.
[1] Negative evidence, outright lies and fraud increase the height of the spring-board considerably. The less plausible, the higher the score.
November 4, 2011 at 5:51 pm
…partly of fear for myself and others. I would certainly not want any woman to be left alone with him, and if we knew, we could help to protect each other…”
fucking delusional – It is us that need protection from you. Again all the women who support Franc are invisible. I’m beginning to get used to it, like I have an invisibility cloak that I can use at will. I’m like a superhero.
November 5, 2011 at 1:49 am
I so want a costume. I would wear it to all the major sceptic and atheist events. I’d have a big GT on the front. Being a gender traitor has turned into something to be proud of. It’s surreal.
November 4, 2011 at 4:41 pm
Ophelia: Yes, he absolutely might be at GAC 2012; he was at GAC 2010.
So, Franc. Be honest now. How many women did you rape or abuse at GAC 2010?
November 4, 2011 at 6:02 pm
As a mathematician, I’d have to say that it is an imaginary number.
November 4, 2011 at 6:23 pm
All the one’s walking bow-legged.
I am actually staggered at the full degree of the incoherence on display here. It is horrifying. The sheer extent of the deliberate mis-reading. It’s unpossible.There is zero relation between what I write and their mangling of it.
November 4, 2011 at 6:36 pm
Oops. It looks like I did not close off an italic block adequately. Perhaps this will do the trick: Italic? Italic?
The display of incoherence is nothing more than that which has been displayed over (say) the last year or so, at least on PZ’s Church of Indoctrination site(s).
But sure: Auntie Ophelia began semi-literate, (apart from her insane worship of philosophy), but has recently degenerated to an alarming extent, to the point now where the only thing that distinguishes her from the horde now is slightly superior grammar.
She has drunk deeply from the well of flavor-aid that PZ is serving from Watson’s poisonous hell-kitchen.
November 4, 2011 at 9:13 pm
@Michael: Let’s see if an </i> fixes the italic problem .
Hopefully, that worked. Damn, we need a preview button!
@Franc: I am flabbergasted by the delusion. Apparently, disliking Rebecca = misogynist. I wonder why no one is protesting of your misandry re: PZ?
November 4, 2011 at 9:24 pm
One need not proceed as far as disliking her, but mere rational adult observation of sheer hypocrisy is all that is required to gain the convenient and unarguable label in perpetuity.
It is just TOO CONVENIENT for them.
Merely stamp observant and rational dissenters on the fore-head with RAPIST, and forever they shall be shunned amongst the unthinking herds of bleating acolytes.
As easy as falling into bed at an atheist conference at 4am whilst dead-drunk, jet-lagged and off one’s head, having hallucinated being raped during the 5 second ride in the elevator to one’s bedroom.
November 4, 2011 at 9:07 pm
Oh my goodness….
November 4, 2011 at 9:47 pm
Is this for real? Does that pillock ‘elaine’ even know who you are?!
What the fuck has HAPPENED to that place?!?
November 4, 2011 at 9:53 pm
Huh… It changed?
November 4, 2011 at 9:54 pm
It has become a true-blue fully-blown cult.
That is what has happened.
November 5, 2011 at 10:13 am
“It does not matter if he is dangerous” Absolutely fucking pathetic.
November 5, 2011 at 3:22 am
I left that website behind a couple of months ago, but I’m occasionally tempted to go back just to fuck with them. What hysterical, NON-RATIONAL people they are. Shameful.
November 5, 2011 at 5:32 am
It looks like PeeZus has had to ban one of his OM heroes named Frottage Cheese OM. I don’t know if Frottage is a legit OM or someone having fun. It’s somewhere within that ode to glory, Predators Within … or whateverthefuck it’s called.
November 5, 2011 at 11:05 am
Hoogle,
If you and your horde would just behave yourselves and leave PZ alone, he’d get around to finishing them there peer-review papers you’ll are demanding of him.
November 5, 2011 at 5:58 pm
Dunno, not a lot we can do to paint Myers in a more vile light than he does himself. He’s like one of the professional whiners from the Moral Majority.
November 5, 2011 at 3:47 pm
“One of the annoying things about the MRA gang on their anti-Watson crusade is their complete lack of perspective.”
“The GAC organizers have been informed of Hoggle’s identity, and have had his pages o’ hate shown to them. It’s their decision now.’
http://freethoughtblogs.com/almostdiamonds/2011/11/02/elevatorgate-challenge-4/#comment-10449
November 5, 2011 at 5:27 pm
He can speak for himself about “lacking perspective.”
November 5, 2011 at 5:57 pm
Hopefully they will actually read the “pages o’ hate”, rather than taking PZ’s word for it.
November 5, 2011 at 6:00 pm
That’s all anybody has to do – just read for themselves.
November 6, 2011 at 4:58 am
In particular, I hope they read the original elevatorgate challenge, the classic The Watson Circus – Stick To Science PZ. If the baboons had any self-respect, they would have attempted to respond to that here (or anyplace else appropriate). Notice how none of them did it, and the only attempts at rational debate was by members on this side, going over to their sites.
One of the distressing things in this whole issue is the reluctance of big bloggers to take this idiocy head on. Comment#12 at the above link from JohnDoeAtheist:
We truly have to appreciate what RD did by sticking out his neck right at the very beginning.
November 5, 2011 at 7:07 pm
That was a good one. Had fun for a while, until I got pissed off at the stoopid.
November 6, 2011 at 8:01 am
Look, I have not been following all this Dawkins/Watson/Myers stuff that has been going on for the last few months, and to be honest, I don’t really give a shit about any of it. (And I wish you’d find something new to talk about, besides.)
I also know virtually nothing about Myers and Watson –never even heard them speak — but to compare you to an idiot like Mabus is just effin’ ridiculous. You may be a fuckin’ asshole Franc (said with the utmost affection), but you’re not an idiot.
November 6, 2011 at 2:14 pm
This is the mildest of the smears. We are seeing a modern, secularist implementation of shunning being systematically applied at those that question ideology. If you haven’t been paying attention Dallas, maybe you should. This is basically a fascist movement we are dealing with.
November 7, 2011 at 5:08 pm
BTW: Rorschach is attending the conference as well.
Why does not PZ alert the GAC organisers and relay his intemperate remarks?
(Rhetorical)
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