“If you’re a preacher, you talk for a living, so even if you don’t make sense, you learn to make nonsense eloquently.“ — Andrew Young [link]
“It is a far, far better thing to have a firm anchor in nonsense than to put out on the troubled seas of thought.” — John Kenneth Galbraith [link]
These two quotes sit nicely side by side. The Galbraith one is particularly juicy, and richly sardonic, taken from his early work, The Affluent Society and refers to his theory of The Dependence Effect in economics which can be summarised roughly as –
…the final focus on production in economics amongst all else; alongside the observation that maximisation of production is sought chiefly not for the goods it produces, but to obtain full employment. The Dependence Effect further undermines our focus on production, claiming that the demand for this new production is created by the production itself…
As Galbraith elaborates, nowhere in this feedback system are any checks ever made as to whether there is any net benefit to the public weal via this closed loop – it is just assumed on faith. There is an illusory kind of social stability, but as for quantifiable benefits, that requires belief. And it is the expedient path to anchor oneself to this belief rather than to put out on the troubled seas of thought.
What a delicious parallel to The Crisis Factory and the misandrist blog industry. Because that is what we have been enduring for what seems like eternity now, The Naked Emperor, The Pudgy Pink Princess and the Watsonista hordes fabricating an artificial state of catastrophe and then justifying their own existence by claiming to be saviors that can mitigate the catastrophe, whilst actually only inflating the catastrophe to new and ever more absurd heights.
And as with Galbraith’s economic model, the system exists for no readily discernible or justifiable reason other than to sustain itself. Flatus begetting flatus. And a gravy train of CFI subsidised benders.
The Naked Emperor, as always, somehow still manages to find new lows in this production cycle, as he does with one of his latest hubristic howlers at baboon central –
This is possibly the most hypocritical headline the baboon board has produced to date. Forget the actual article it links to for the moment – the mere fact that such a headline can even occur to Myers in the first place in light of all of his relentless nonsense, hostile projection and outright denialism of even the most basic realities is astonishing. His bread and butter is abuse, circular argument, deception, jumping at shadows and gibberish – that is the sum of everything the Big Baboon has been able to offer to date.
If anyone can lay claim to being a polyp that fell out of the same ass as Ray Comfort or Glenn Beck, it’s Myers – no ::cough:: “MRA” can ever lay claim to his degree of boneheaded dogmatism and delusion. And as far as followers go – the baboon horde’s spectacular talents at precision groupthink are second to none. This projection of venom at “MRA”s is an order of magnitude above and beyond any that’s preceded it. Myers can teach Creationists about manipulating reality to suit predefined goals – they are a bunch of amateurs. He is in no position to accuse others of it.
As for the target of his hatred on this occasion, it seems totally beyond the comprehension of the Naked One that Manboobz is a blog in the same category I frequently find myself – that of the Satire of Resignation and Despair. Duh. It even says in big bold letters in its title banner – “MISOGYNY. I MOCK IT”. The article in question is here, and helpfully even points out it is discussing material found elsewhere –
“Remember that pussy is a biochemical WMD; wherever it is used, there is mass chaos and destruction.”
The daffy, excitable Man Going His Own Way who calls himself MarkyMark may be my favorite manosphere blogger of all. Not only does he bring the lulz himself – who can forget the time he wrote a completely unironic point by point rebuttal of an Onion article? – but he also helps to bring attention to the equally stupefying work of others.
Does this prevent the Naked One from yapping before reading? Of course not. The numbskull bit and swallowed the tackle box with it. The moron’s moron. No time to waste when there’s another pair of Becky’s soiled panties that could be sent in the mail any day now if you impress enough… So it’s bite first, think later…
Moron. MORON. MORON. MORON.
This is the public voice that claims to represent you in secularism. Despair, oh despair. This degree of mindless misandrist bile, and it’s far from an isolated instance, can only exist in an environment where the readership is even more mindless. And that’s what the baboon board, and all of freefromthoughtblogs, is – a black hole full of imbeciles who’s entire vocabulary consists of “me too!!!” and a fistful of off-the-shelf insults to hurl like dung at outsiders.
This is the Dependence Effect based economy of the gender feminist / slave moralist blogging world. Nonsense feeding back to itself and generating more nonsense. Were that this damage were localised and limited to its own cesspit – but it’s not. It leaks and undermines and corrupts others.
There is some interesting commentary on Galbraith’s Dependence Effect that can be found at the Economist’s View blog –
John Kenneth Galbraith’s Contributions to Economics
… It is not consumers who are sovereign in the modern industrial system, but rather the gigantic firms that produce and market goods and services. In Galbraith’s “revised sequence,” producers decide what shall be produced and then mold consumers’ tastes so that they buy these products…
Galbraith’s theory of consumer demand has an important policy implication: there will be an underallocation of resources to public goods. Galbraith called this circumstance “social imbalance.” The creation of artificial wants through advertising and the propensity for emulation shifts resources toward private goods and away from public goods that have greater inherent value. New automobiles are seen as being more important than new roads; vacuum cleaners in the home are desired more than street cleaners. Alcohol, comic books, and mouthwashes take on a greater aggregate importance than schools, courts, and municipal swimming pools…
This economic perversion is now well evident within secularism. Both clear-thinking and skepticism are being cast aside and replaced by ideology of the populist orthodoxy of inverted sexism and privilege. Egalitarianism and genuine humanism are superseded by tunnel-visioned exceptionalism focusing on unrepresentative minorities – pudgy pink princesses1 and their toilet slaves – at the expense of all others in the community, who are from this point forth subordinates and second class, all criminals that have not yet been caught and punished.
The degradation has many other examples wherever you look – CFI squandering vast resources (whilst simultaneously crying poor) on gender feminist thinktanks and suddenly promoting marked anti-atheist bias for example. It also occurs on the micro-economic scale at individual sponsored events – such as when Watson squanders time allocated to her to wallow in narcissistic self-pity about elevator trauma rather than using it constructively to address actual issues that matter. The entire secular movement is being undermined.
At the helm of this corruption is PZ Myers and Rebecca Watson – both screaming in unison at how unfair and cruel the world is. Cry me a river. It’s beyond slapstick. We are witnessing the murder of secularism and all of its founding values. And it is demanded we feel grateful for it and beg forgiveness from them for our infinite cruelty. It can’t get much viler.
1 – When even Ayaan Hirsi Ali points out that Watsonista style gender feminism is only interested in promoting white women and it falls on deaf ears, you know you have a problem –
http://www.bookerrising.net/2010/02/ayaan-hirsi-ali-with-islam-as-its.html
October 26, 2011 at 10:07 pm
I agree.
But the other crew members should be placed on the sinking ship’s manifest, apart from the the faux Professor and the dyed airhead Ginger.
There’s the hapless and put-upon Gilligan, (elevator guy), the slapstick Dung-Kruger type-sample Skipper (an under-Laden intellectual vessel), the white-knight Thurston-Howell the Turd (Gollum), and the maligned and ignored but smart & useful Maryanne (Stef).
And “Lovey”, ably portrayed by the method actress Ophelia Benson.
October 26, 2011 at 10:32 pm
And before some pretend bathtub-navy anally-retentive types pipe-up and shrilly inform me that the S.S. Minnow was really a “boat”, and not a “ship”:
1) I know well enough.
I was a commissioned Acting Sub Lieutenant in the Royal Australian Navy for “a while”.
2) It doesn’t matter anyway.
3) Get fucked.
October 26, 2011 at 10:40 pm
You’re still a rapist jerk.
October 26, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Nice to see that the avatar selector got the spectacles portrayed accurately!
Whilst I admit cheerfully and willingly to being a jerk, there can be no evidence of my being a rapist.
As you post under a wholly cowardly pseudonym, might I ask your true identity, please?
Be warned: If you are, in fact, a puerile troll, then I shall take double steps to prosecute. I do not take kindly to neither libel, nor infantile attempts at humour.
I s’pose it is the Aspie in me.
October 26, 2011 at 11:01 pm
Yeah? Why don’t you come down to Pharyngula and say that tough guy?
October 26, 2011 at 11:04 pm
You are not fooling anybody, Franc.
October 26, 2011 at 11:07 pm
Hey, I’m not the one walking into doors.
October 26, 2011 at 11:10 pm
It is a bruise that is sustained from being brutally beaten by my bank manager.
I did NOT walk into a door!
I resemble that remark.
October 26, 2011 at 11:27 pm
[serious] I don’t really know how I feel about being teased as a result of my Asperger’s.
On one hand, I can intellectually understand it as a subject of mild amusement. But it seems a bit “unfair”. Not earth-shatteringly so, as would a deliberate lie about me, but it is something with which I was born, and therefore seems to me as a very easy and unearned witless jibe.
No thought need go into the mix of humour.
Much like teasing a person missing a left leg as being an unidexter.
As witless as an ad hominem. Unless Peter Cook is executing said jape.
I know that you guys can do far better, even on a bad day.
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October 27, 2011 at 12:17 am
Serious, I doubt anybody even thinks about that to the point of targeting you and its a tad paranoid to assume they would. Just unfortunate coincidence. Really.
October 27, 2011 at 12:12 am
I’m not sure how much more obvious it can get (emphasis mine)…
cf, “WTF is a MGTOW?”
It took me all of three minutes to find that bit of text.
You know, people read blogs partly because it’s a way of relying on someone else, perhaps who is more able and willing, to research topics of your interest and share his own interpretation of it with others. When the author doesn’t even bother with things like fact checking, it just goes to show what he really thinks about his audience.
As far as I’m concerned, it undermines his credibility not in just writing on politics, but science as well. Right or wrong, it’s an issue of trust.
October 27, 2011 at 12:12 am
Closing tag fail. “Mangina” is supposed to be bolded, “e.g., me” is supposed to be emphasized.
October 27, 2011 at 12:25 am
He has no credibility left for any even casual observer with an ounce of critical ability. This is the arrogance of infallibility. It’s the same egotistical hubris that allowed Becky to blurt out the church killed Galileo. They are above banalities like fact checking. Their acolytes are blindly subservient and don’t question anyway. Very churchy. The fish massacre I linked is a good example of how blindly faithful they are –
http://phawrongula.wikia.com/wiki/The%20Great%20Fish%20Massacre
October 27, 2011 at 12:56 am
That’s all true, but “s/he doesn’t respect me as a reader or as a person” ought to anger anyone with even a modicum of dignity and self-respect, even those lacking critical ability. What that says of the remaining Pharyngula and Skepchick audience is obvious; what is that term you use… “Toilet slave?” Fitting.
I didn’t mean to suggest that there was still credibility. (N.B., I would be using the thumbs up feature more often, but it seems like it doesn’t work for anonymous cowards. Oh well, the thought is there.)
October 27, 2011 at 1:02 am
That thumbs thing only works when it please. I just get mindless amusement from when it misbehaves – often it moves away from the cursor, but if you’re quick you can still nail it. Simple amusements…
Yes, “toilet slave” is fitting, and nice to see entering the vernacular elsewhere. That’s what it takes to be a genuine Pharyngudrone or Skepchick – surrender and submission. You must forfeit your skepticism and believe. Ironic isn’t it?
October 27, 2011 at 6:26 pm
To correct the thumbs-up anomaly, zoom your browser to a different setting.
It is an incompetently written bit of “hover” code that expands fields until they wrap.
Probably written by a theist.
October 27, 2011 at 2:15 am
I was re-reading and it seems PZ is actually quoting one of the MRAs / MGOTWs that Manboobz is making fun of. That he’s claiming that Manboobz is an MRA site is dubious by my reading. Sure there’s that whole credibility thing, but I think we should be fair too. Am I missing something?
October 27, 2011 at 2:31 am
I couldn’t care less. Quote –
In his haste to spit on MRA’s, the uber-baboon does nothing to clarify that Manboobz is not the target – and gives every indicator he is. It’s irrelevant. This is just raw incoherence splashed on screen. No clarity whatsoever – just venom. That in itself is beyond stupid. And absolute contempt for the reader.
October 27, 2011 at 3:22 am
That’s more than sufficient justification to refuse him the benefit of the doubt in my opinion.
October 27, 2011 at 3:58 am
If you search for Manboobz on his site, you will find some more posts and its quite clear that the baboon king and his horde are quite aware of its nature. for e.g Imaginary lesbians and the sexual singularity
But what rings true each and every time I read the baboon king’s posts, is that ‘all communication is strategy’. No need to address the central thesis of the original poster. Just grab some ‘sound bites’, and dish out his propaganda.
October 27, 2011 at 7:08 am
Franc, I thought you might find this thread interesting…
October 27, 2011 at 4:46 pm
Thanks.
https://greylining.com/2011/10/27/more-pz-myerspharyngulaftb-slut-shaming/
October 27, 2011 at 6:23 pm
Eh?
October 27, 2011 at 6:28 pm
Kakapo’s link? You probably need to be logged into ‘tardbook.
October 27, 2011 at 6:51 pm
I refuse to join that gaggle of acephalic cretins.