"I read Pharyngula. Be afraid. Be very afraid"
I admit it. I have pretty fucking low expectations of our species. It is rare I get surprised. But The Naked Emperor and his baboon posse just keep giving and giving.
It’s a new kind of awful when the best response to others that deviate from standard operating groupthink and criticise is to accuse me of sockpuppetry. Makes the lame-o-meter flip off the dial. Yes, I occassionally have played a sock, but never when leveling any genuine response, and believe it or not, I have never socked the baboon board.
What started off as legitimate criticism of some very uncritical unfreethinking has now devolved to a mere whack-a-mole game. This is the Eternal September. I am just astounded at how easy it is to jerk these knuckleheads around on a string.
Strictly speaking, this isn’t “trolling” as trolls never believe their own crap. I have not written anything deliberately false. I think what terrifies the baboons and the Emperor the most here is having to deal with a mind that is actually “free” – no pride, no shame, no problem. There are no patterns or pigeon holes to rely on. The paint-by-numbers intellectual poseur routine just becomes a train wreck. It would be funny – were you not to realise that this is the public face of the godless.
And yes, I actually do find Moser to be a fascinating individual. But I don’t expect the baboons to understand that. Genuine transgressives are beyond their comprehension in monkey-see-monkey-do land. For all the squeals of liberalism, it is quite the hotbed of conservatives. Like Boyd McDonald1, Bodil and Sailor Sid (go on, have a google party chumpy), Moser is as real as it gets. Terrifying.
But it’s fucking disgraceful that these imbeciles claim to represent godlessness and skepticism. It is the best present the theistic right could ever hope for. The same kind of gift that Michael Moore is to Republicans and Teabaggers. The damage to our movement is incalculable. It is however reassuring to see the audience vapourising.
Maybe there is hope.
1 – “I am not a man, I am a piece of meat”. Disappeared off the web. Shame. Gutter faggery as high art.
grey lining 
August 20, 2011 at 11:20 pm
You pissed again Franc?
What’s up with the picture?
Is it something the wowsers from Minnesota put up?
Otherwise I don’t get it.
Just somebody’s kid being happy.
Fair go, obvious chromosome damage, but no imputation as to intelligence (compared to the rest of humanity), if that’s what you’re inferring.
Wouldn’t get Superman there legislating for the rest of us, while lying and dissembling “among themselves” (“because it’s all for the best, you know.. “). Or bullying dissenters and juniors through media dominance.
Well into Frankie Boyle territory there mister, I reckon.
August 20, 2011 at 11:27 pm
Define “pissed”. That depends on geography.
August 20, 2011 at 11:53 pm
Bladdered. Wankered. Arseholed. Steaming. Shit-faced. Hog-wobbling. Off your tits.
(sneaks off to check “Roger’s Profanisaurus”)
August 20, 2011 at 11:56 pm
“blind as a welder’s dog”
Sorry, posted stone cold sober. Try me in a couple of hours.
August 21, 2011 at 12:05 am
“blind as a welder’s dog”
Fuck you. I just wet myself.
August 21, 2011 at 12:55 am
Couldn’t agree more! I don’t really care if there are a bunch of moralizing fembot hypocrites. They can rant and rail and try to change the world if they want. I just don’t accept that they are being embraced as leaders of the atheist and freethought “movement”. Their philosophy is not free thought… it is an ultra leftist correctness police.
Schrodinger’s rapist, sex equaling rape, shaming people for the sexuality…. crazy shit if you ask me…. but each to their own. Just don’t call them my leaders.
August 21, 2011 at 10:43 am
“Ultra leftist”…is there a “normal” leftist range of opinion you would care not to trash?
I don’t care for the watsonian strain of imbecile thinking either, but, in this message and others before it, you give the impression that you rate all “leftist” political thinking as being a rather unsavory lot. I’m starting to get a bit irritated by this kind of thoughtless lumping of what you don’t like into one big tub of rotten lard. I happen to be of the left. You have a problem with that in principle? Then let me tell you that it’s YOUR problem.
August 21, 2011 at 11:42 am
Left/right has long ceased to be relevant. I think what John is referring to is the brand of “left” that Glen Beck and Ann Coulter rant about – and Myers/Watson live up to. It is a vulgar parody, not an actual political stance.
August 21, 2011 at 10:44 pm
Boo Hoo!!!
How do you think us moderates feel? Everyone hates us!
The Left is the master of hate-filled rhetoric. Tea-Baggers? Deniers? Homophobic, racist, bigots? Do conservatives use any labels that come anywhere close for their political opponents? This is the first time I’ve encountered “one big tub of rotten lard” description. Did you borrow that from the Tea Party? I doubt it.
No one has yet to question the main topic of RW’s feminism 101 keynote lecture. Did she even support the assertion that the religious right is waging war on uteruses (sic)?
NO? I wonder why? How can you possibly describe that talk as anything other than vitriolic far left wing propaganda? Compare that with anything the Tea Party has ever claimed.
Maybe more women would be interested in joining your club if you eliminated the partisan politics. I am fascinated by skepticism, but I can’t stomach the political indoctrination the “movement” dishonestly pedals. To deny the problem mixing politics with critical-thinking creates, is either hypocritical or just plain disingenuous Cognitive dissidence is not acceptable if one truly is promoting skepticism.
August 21, 2011 at 10:50 pm
I was replying to Raimondo. It looks like I’m replying to Frank, so I wanted to clarify.
I assume Frank is a moderate, too, from what he’s said. But I’m new here, so I’m sorry if I got the wrong impression.
Carry on! I love that people have woken up to the nonsense of Pharyngula and Skepchick.
August 21, 2011 at 10:52 pm
Oh, and I have 2 X chromosomes, too, FWIW.
August 21, 2011 at 10:54 pm
Actually, I am probably a right wing maniac by Raimondo’s standards (no offense R.) All depends on how hungover I am.
August 22, 2011 at 2:41 am
Easy now Raimondo – I have never trashed everyone who claims they are “left of center” in their political opinions. Most people would call me a liberal leftist. My objection to Watson, PZ, Greta, etc. is their promotion of the idea that their “secular” morality is so superior it should be jammed down everyone’s throat. (example: Give them an inch and they will ban pornography to “protect” innocent men and woman from the obvious abuse of masturbation addiction and the slave trade.)
My comments when I use the “left” label are not well understood. I will avoid this language in the future.
August 22, 2011 at 3:25 am
Welcome, Specs!
We need more ditsy blondes here. I can’t be the only one, it get’s tiring.
Relax Raimondo, being a Lefty is only a label.
I’m a centrist. There are annoying things about both ends of the spectrum.
August 21, 2011 at 11:02 pm
UGH! and I spelled your name wrong! Franc!
I’ve been a little ditzy lately, being blond and female. You know!!!
LOL I’m a gender traitor, now!
August 21, 2011 at 11:05 pm
Ditzy, blond, female and gender traitor. If you wanna get drunk and roll around naked, you should just say so.
Sorry, just playing my role as privileged abuser. Wouldn’t want to disappoint Chumpy.
August 22, 2011 at 1:38 am
Thanks! I’m flattered.
Shall we meet up in Dublin, around 4am, in the elevator?
On second thought….
RW has managed to kill all the erotic thrill of elevator sex for me now 😦
I made a terrible mistake when I clicked on this link recently
WARNING!! enter at your own risk!
Since I’m straight, it was all the more repulsive.
August 22, 2011 at 2:06 am
Ugh. There goes my breakfast. Beauty is skin deep. Ugly seeps from the pores. What I really hate Watson for is giving me shudders when I see redheads now. I still love Marieke tho’.
August 22, 2011 at 3:29 am
I’ve always been a Gender Traitor, wear it as a badge, be proud!
August 21, 2011 at 3:33 am
JD@3 “.. embraced as leaders of the atheist and freethought “movement”.” Embraced? Hardly. Self-imposed due to their humunguous first-world idle-rich elite privilege, and arrogation of resources (especially access to infrastructure, likely a perk of their proximity to the taxpayers’ tit; and most importantly, time).
Same methods as ol’ Rupert Murdoch.
They’re Very Rich, and Very Noisy.
And are used to being deferred to, unconditionally.
It just feels .. natural to them.
Which is why cunts like Franc piss them off so much, I suppose.
August 24, 2011 at 1:00 am
Wow.
Franc, you are such a sad, sad little man.
I came here to flame you. The first post of yours I read pissed me off, and I came to argue. Then I saw this post, and saw that picture. Now I honestly just feel sorry for you.
I’m not sure if you need to wake up or grow up, but I hope that you do either, before it is too late. You don’t piss me off anymore. Your posts don’t make me angry. Just sad.
So very sad.
August 24, 2011 at 2:00 am
These faux displays of condescension really say it all. Thanks for your time.
August 24, 2011 at 5:42 am
The pity and compassion card… I love this play. I will see your pity and raise you two compassions. Haha. Lame Foster… really lame….
I am sure you are thinking that Franc must just be sad and lonely and so you should shine your Human Light upon his grey grey soul. How sacred and loving of you… you are such a virtuous person! The world would really be a shit hole without your love!
August 24, 2011 at 1:51 pm
This is it really. They have two cards to play with. One, cheap insults questioning your penis size and masculine insecurity. The other is this ‘pity’ play.
What is glaring by omission is actual argument with substance. Nowhere to be found…