This just needs preserving before chickenshit deletes it. Nothing to add otherwise.
“They? Who in the hell is they?”
– Sykes in the Wild Bunch.
They have moved beyond parody
August 17, 2011 at 11:39 pm 
PZ MyersThis apparently has something to do with Elevatorgate. Somehow. In some strange, distorted, funhouse mirror world.
There have been some peculiarly crazy people obsessing over me and Rebecca Watson, and how we’re evil tyrants out to destroy the life of good manly men. One of the craziest is Franc Hoggle, who early on staked out a position somewhere in the stratosphere above delusional Disneyland, with rants about how Watson had been preaching some New Age weirdness about “the divine yoni” and other such excretions from his imagination. Now though, he has gotten even with us all. He has taught us a lesson.
Just for the sake of full disclosure: I have just jerked off with an eastern european lady with a real body, cellulite and all. She has a couple of kids and a real life she keeps separate from the ‘net. We had an adult transaction. There was no shame or guilt involved. She agrees I was probably the one exploited. We laugh about that. I tell her thank you. You made my night honey. She tells me thank you for not being an asshole. I say hey… I know its a free world. We exchange token kisseys.
Apparently, a crime has occurred… If you believe… hard enough…
Fuck you PZ. Fuck you Becky. Neo-puritans. Neo-Nazis.
Yes. A lunatic MRA has paid for a session with a woman in which he masturbated angrily while thinking rude thoughts about me and Rebecca Watson, and he’s now bragging proudly about it on the internet. We have so oppressed him that he needed sexual release in order to properly express his outrage. Somehow, he finds satisfaction in spiting my puritanical Nazi desires to destroy his proud tumescence by ejaculating before a sex worker.
I’m going to have to deflate him a bit. I have no problem with his activities, and am not going to suggest that he’s a bad person at all. Quite the contrary, I think it was good use of his time, and I urge all of his fellow gentlemen who have been busily concocting angry fantasies about women to embrace their frustrations and whip their penises out, grasp them tightly in their hands, and wank. Wank furiously. Wank angrily. Wank with passion. Wank gloriously. Wank with sublime satisfaction that at last you have discovered the wellspring of your desire, and you have found a way to express it that makes us all happy…you, me, the women who don’t have to deal with your advances, the women you pay to receive them. I’m not even bothered by the fact that I’m a figure in your kink, Mr Hoggle, as long as you keep it in your imagination and don’t expect gratification from me in real life.
But you are one weird little wanker, you know.
grey lining 
August 19, 2011 at 12:24 am
LMFAO!!!
August 19, 2011 at 12:36 am
I left my comments with the fempecked pharyngulite hoard. PZ is a nitwit and is clearly too self-righteous to see the irony in all of this. I fear the lefty liberals more than the right wing loons…. alas….
It is quite astounding that PZ is happy to call people lunatics and to insult them for their sexual behavior. There must be some proper way to masturbate and some improper way to masturbate. Maybe PZ can describe his technique so the rest of us can learn how to do it correctly.
PZ acts like the kids in middle school who insulted everyone for jerking-off while they hid in their own bedroom spurting to a Farrah Fawcett poster and crying to themselves.
Please PZ – tell us all the proper way to have sex… the rest of us zombie clones need to know…. you self-righteous blathering hypocrite. (for example: do you apologize to the girl in the centerfold after thinking dirty thoughts about her?)
August 19, 2011 at 4:36 am
I can’t even read the Pharangulosers’ comments on his blog in one sitting. They are idiots, who do not even get the *point* of the rape post.
I’m proud to be a Hoggle Poodle, and I am proud to be called a “gender traitor”. Those at Pharangula do not even understand the difference between a equality feminism and gender feminism.
They are the most dense commenters I’ve ever seen. Over and over again they say “I don’t even get his post” No! Really? Then why even comment!
and fempecked is a brilliant word.
Franc has been relentless in his requests for me to write a guest post here. I need to do that. A woman who agrees with him has to make them squirm, the cunt makes all the difference.
Oh, and I can be a brilliant cunt.
August 19, 2011 at 6:01 am
But everlasting shame be on you for not following the herd, and using your own mind instead… 😉
August 20, 2011 at 3:33 pm
You have been called as a sock puppet. Flattery or insult? Most likely, you don’t have a mind of your own. Traitor. Ball gag and stilettos are in the mail.
August 19, 2011 at 4:39 am
John D: “I fear the lefty liberals more than the right wing loons…”
me too.
The whole PC thing is a smoke screen and a farce. Hypocrites extraordinaire.
August 19, 2011 at 6:04 am
Let’s say that “lefty liberals” (whatever that means, being that it’s quite imprecise in its formulation) can certainly be as self-important and self-righteous as people of any other political stripe.
Still, it would be an ad hominem fallacy to dismiss the politics because some of the people espousing them are jackasses. The politics still have to be assessed on their own merits.
August 19, 2011 at 10:59 pm
“left” and “liberal” are the most misused terms here. They are neither. They are fascists. QED. Use terror to silence dissent, use race and gender to breed hatred. “liberal” my hairy ass.
August 19, 2011 at 11:12 pm
I should be more precise. By lefty liberal I refer to the idea that the role of government includes intrusive social regulations. These social regulations are designed to help the “needy”. Thus, rather than legislating because god tells you to, a lefty liberal legislates because popular psychological babble tells you to. Thus we find a group of politically left leaning zealots who want to ban pornography. Their claim is that porn objectifies women and is therefore bad and therefore is evil and thus…. must be made illegal.
Labels are problematic… but I hope this makes some sense.
August 19, 2011 at 11:35 pm
labels
August 20, 2011 at 4:18 am
What I mean (I can’t speak for John) are leftist accomodationists, to begin with, the “you can’t blame the religion, or the moderates, for those who were part of the Taliban” the “They have a different culture, we should be sensitive to, so we should respect the burqa and what it stands for” those who have the bumper sticker “co-exist” with all of the different religious symbols.
Those that say they are pro-equality, but are in favour of affirmative action, those with “white guilt”. Those who are anti-business, and pro-“organic” as if they even understand what that means… and more
August 19, 2011 at 6:22 am
Haha. We are up to almost 300 posts on PZs loonville. I have been called a shitsucker, hogfucker, misogynist, rapist. My strongest words were calling these people nitwits. They are so touchy I have been holding back.
They do not know what a strawman is, they do not understand what misogyny is and they cannot define “hate”.
They take everything I say out of context, don’t respond to my specific points, and get all butthurt if I point out their hypocracy.
A great time… I highly recommend it.
August 19, 2011 at 7:21 am
How did he take the “fuck you…” part at the end to mean that they were who you were actually wanking to? Didn’t you make it very clear that you were wanking with/to your European woman friend? Does PZ think that people wank about him and Watson by default? In fact, he claims you “masturbated angrily while thinking rude thoughts about me and Rebecca Watson”? Why’d he insert that in there? Maybe HE actually wanks “angrily” to Watson and you? 😀
And your orgasm, it’s intent according to sex guru Myers was “in order to properly express his outrage”?!?!?!? Huh? Maybe that’s how PZ’s orgasms most easily express and he figures everyone else must be like that too.
Call me weird, but my orgasms’ intents are always for the mix of physical pleasure leading up to, during, and afterwards basking in the nice happy feeling. That mixed all in with whatever level of emotional closeness I have (or sometimes don’t) with the person. Silly me, I assumed others were like that too.
This blogwar has gone into weirdoville, and I really don’t think it’s anything to do with that strange little cigarette I took a couple of puffs off of a few minutes ago. This latest post by PZ is totally fucking weird because it gives me a mix of humour, horror, and a genuine puzzle of many unanswered questions so it’s got some intrigue going for it. At least it’s interesting in that case. Gotta give it that! 🙂
August 19, 2011 at 11:05 pm
I think “consent” is illegal now. So is being an adult. In fact, you are illegal probably. And me. So much guilt, so little time. Need a hairshirt? I have a spare.
August 20, 2011 at 3:56 am
PZ’s reply is a straw man on steroids. He talks about his perceived enemy’s supposed self-debasement, whereas it’s not much more than an attempt to distort and bend reality to his own preferred ends, and add a touch of making shit up to round out the effect if necessary. Which is exactly the kind of faith-based bullcrap that the religious generally engage in. Something has snapped, and he sounds borderline psychotic.
August 20, 2011 at 4:20 am
Nectar says: “How did he take the “fuck you…” part at the end to mean that they were who you were actually wanking to? Didn’t you make it very clear that you were wanking with/to your European woman friend? Does PZ think that people wank about him and Watson by default? In fact, he claims you “masturbated angrily while thinking rude thoughts about me and Rebecca Watson”? Why’d he insert that in there? Maybe HE actually wanks “angrily” to Watson and you? 😀
And your orgasm, it’s intent according to sex guru Myers was “in order to properly express his outrage”?!?!?!? Huh? Maybe that’s how PZ’s orgasms most easily express and he figures everyone else must be like that too.”
I was thinking the *exact same thing” when reading PZ’s reponse to that.
August 20, 2011 at 5:12 am
Sacha: Damn those Freudian-like slip ups, eh? Poor PZ. I think he’s going through a mid-life crisis. 🙂
Frank: With the radfems, consent is always what THEY say it is and WHEN they say it is, not if & when the actual participants of the sex say it is. Femtardation, like any other faith belief, does not like logic.
August 20, 2011 at 3:38 pm
Yes mistress.
PZ does have an unhealthy interest in the young ones though – that’s as “mid-life” a crisis as you can get. Lucky for him, he has people like me to hate and take away the pain.
August 20, 2011 at 5:40 pm
Nectar, perhaps the most worrying thing is that these clowns cannot separate basic biological function and human feeling from conscious exploitation and violence. They live in an ugly world. Really, they are the ones that corrupt innocence by making everything seem so filthy. So churchy you want to puke. Adults doing adult things – how horrifying.
August 19, 2011 at 10:48 am
Status… we are almost up to post 400. Currently I am a shitsucker, hogfucker, liar, misogynist, John D(ickhead), rapist, and my wife is a suicidally naive (for wanting to be a “housewife). Also, PZ (aka naked king) has called me a hoggling (which I rather enjoyed). Yeah – hoggling – it’s a keeper my friends. An outstanding afternoon.
August 19, 2011 at 10:55 am
Oh… this from the naked one himself…
“Jebus. John D, you’re just rehashing the same delusions your gang has had for months.
You’re too stupid to continue here.
Goodbye.”
I can’t imagine he is kicking me out. His Borg minions are having too much fun insulting me for him to do that. How else will he feed his hungry hoard???
August 19, 2011 at 11:03 am
Yes! It is done. I am banned from another fine fembot site!
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/dungeon/
August 19, 2011 at 11:44 am
Reminds me of this:
Specially the part that goes: “Let me guess why you knocked me
Off your guest list”…
August 20, 2011 at 10:24 am
Well, here is my one and only comment on Pharangula:
http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/2011/08/17/they-have-moved-beyond-parody/comment-page-1/#comment-16587
Of course, now I’ve thought of things I would have like to have added:]
First: regarding what I agreed with Scented Nectar about – see here: https://greylining.wordpress.com/2011/08/18/pz-myers-i-yam-sam-sam-i-yam/#comment-994
I would have liked to have said that “PZ has declared it so” and you have followed, making the first logical fallacy: Argument from Authority
and what follows along those lines is how many commenters actually said “I don’t understand [the rape post]”, and then proceeded to voice an opinion exactly mirroring PZ’s
Second: that “shock value” is about the *reaction* to it, which is where the power lies, not in the use of it.
Third: Not only mention confirmation bias (extraordinaire) but list all of the logical fallacies used in their comments regaring the “rape” post.
That’s what has been on my mind since I posted the comment there, I’m sure I’ll think of more…
August 20, 2011 at 10:37 am
and if by chance you are wondering why that was my one and only post on Pharangula, here is a fabulous quote from Ben Goldacre: