Pharyngula fight!
There’s something so ickily pathetic about a middle aged guy that has to remind you at every turn about his own awesomeness, influence, how big his gang is and how much more important he is than an insignificant piece of shit like you. That pathetic-ness goes into hyperdrive when you watch it roll over on its back and piss its belly like a frightened dog when there is even the slightest whiff of his own gang turning on him.
Such a man’s man is The Naked Emperor.
When Myers is barricaded inside fortress Pharyngula, and has his army of trained baboons lined up behind him in “independently minded” unison, the man is an indestructible, nuclear warhead-proof mecha-Godzilla of righteous rage – like when he slanders the bulk of the godless community as being rape apologists with inadequate genitalia. But when he attempts to poke something with a pussy on the other hand, it’s quite a different story and he folds like a jizzy tissue at the merest hint of criticism… What a guy to look up to.
Such was the case just a day ago when he chose to laugh it up at the expense of Michele Bachmann. I won’t reproduce the whole item here, but it revolved around a rather unflattering photo of Bachmann that looked as though she was just about to deep throat a frankfurter and speculation about the reptilian properties of her jaws. It has been written about here and here and plenty of other places, and as far as Myers idiocy goes, it is nothing out of the ordinary.
If there were crimes committed by that post, they were the unpardonable ones of witlessness and mindlessness. There are two golden rules for humour –
- It should be funny, and
- It should, behind the humour, have a touch of pertinence to something.
What we have instead is “haw, haw, look, a stoopid Republican doing something stoopid haw, haw”, which is pretty much what we expect from the no-brain brand of liberalism that Myers and his ilk represents. It doesn’t even really qualify as tasteless humour either, unless you’re a 14 year old jock in a football locker room. Tastelessness is an artform in itself – and if indulged in, has to be indulged in to gratuitous, unashamed excess. And if you can’t, or won’t, do that, then just don’t bother.
No, the problem here isn’t the dumbness – this was not the crime involved in the post’s removal. The crime, as per usual, was against the holy yoni. You can’t laugh at women – even if it is Michele Bachmann. It did take a while for the slave resentment to wake up though. First 90 or so comments are the usual butt-licking “haha, yes I’m smart too, I get PZ’s joke haha” parrot squawks. Even a few fem-bots partook –
magistramarla says:
Hey guys,
I’m a woman and I’ve always considered myself a feminist.
I have absolutely no problem with you making fun of Bachmann with this picture. She is so disgusting and her candidacy is so dangerous for this country, I believe that we need to keep showing her in all of her stupidity and hypocrisy for all to see.
Don’t be gentlemen – let her have it, guys! I’ll join you.
But by comment 91, the reprimands for deviating from standard operating groupthink kick in and it’s back to business-as-usual –
RahXephon, un féminist nucléaire says:
Atheist men are always loudly complaining that women never want to participate, and we just had a weeks-long battle over this Elevatorgate shit, and I thought maybe at least PZ got it. Then you post something like this so you can go “HA HA MICHELLE BACHMANN’S UGLY AND OLD AND SHE’S STICKING SOMETHING THAT LOOKS LIKE A DICK IN HER MOUTH HA HA IT IS TO LAUGH!”
Un-fucking-believable.
From there it’s a gibberish downhill race, followed by the inevitable PZ kowtowing submission, and the post was removed and replaced with a standard non-apology cop out statement instead –
After reading the responses to this article, I’ve reconsidered and decided it was too easily misconstrued, so it’s gone.
Crippled dog rolling on its back and pissing its belly in fear. The PZ we all know and love.
There are, of course, plenty of opportunities for Myers to redeem himself out there. To show to us he is not just a mere opportunist, populist, whore-4-sale suck-hole exploiting the idiocy of his audience for personal gain. All it takes is a will. Take this photo for instance, one at least as worthy of derision as Bachmann’s –
"a woman’s reasonable expectation to feel safe from sexual objectification and assault at skeptic and atheist events is outweighed by a man’s right to sexually objectify her." -- Rebecca Watson (image via skepchick.org)
Myers wouldn’t need to sprain his brain. I’d even help, something witty like – “Haw, haw, look at the momma arachnid. Probably has a cunt full of baby spiders…”
Not a lot to it. It just requires balls, a spine and the integrity to share contempt around equally without fear or favour. Of course, with Myers this is a triple fail, so we’ll never see it.
Freethoughtblogs.com – indeed. Free from thought that is. Awful. Simply awful. And this shmuck claims to represent you.
New, new atheism. Abandon ship.
grey lining 
August 16, 2011 at 10:30 pm
Indeed – ole PZ is now “fempecked”. An awesome new word added to our vocabulary (not invented by me of course).
I wonder how long it will take the fembot troopers to think about how Watson tells men to use watermelons and rubber dolls to masturbate when they can’t find a “date” (presuming a date with a feminist is an improvement over a watermelon). The use of this language by fembot Rebecca means it is free game for men to discuss females masturbating with cucumbers and sucking on corn dogs. OH! The hypocracy…. it hurts!
August 16, 2011 at 10:45 pm
That fempecked word when it appeared in my comment almost resulted in a spit take. My first thought was “oh shit, I hope this is a new one because it’s so awesome.”
And it appears to be. I do plan on putting it to good use in the tried and true fashion of just stealing it outright!
For the record, Spence is the one who came up with it. And it’s awesome. I might have to change the “donate” button on my blog to buy him a cup of coffee for that one.
August 16, 2011 at 10:32 pm
Regrets on the spelling of hypocrisy (hypocracy)…. I never was too good a spellin’.
August 19, 2011 at 6:08 pm
Well to be fair John, we currently live in a hypocracy. It’s not so much a misspelling as a neologism at this point.
August 16, 2011 at 10:43 pm
I can never find fitting pictures like other people can. That pharyngula fight picture is just nine kinds of perfection.
Somehow, if PZ takes to heart the growing public interest in his CV, I think this line might have to make a reference under “special abilities”, “mere opportunist, populist, whore-4-sale suck-hole”
Anyway, excellent prose – great humor again. Somethings are so nice to ease into a cup of coffee over. (no one take that the wrong way! I don’t want to have to apologize to you in that way where I blame you for what I say in that apologetic I’m sorry you’re too stupid to understand what I really meant to say way – k?)
August 17, 2011 at 12:42 am
Could someone perhaps allay my growing suspicion that the most inarticulate and prompt-to-supplicate baboons are, in fact, His hapless students?
And that He knows who they are, and that they know that He knows (and so on)?
I’d been hanging on to the hope that they were mixture of (a) His sockie-Ps, and (b) random housebound imbeciles.
And not obligated in any way to behave in that humiliatingly servile fashion.
I’d love to have my paranoia discounted.
August 17, 2011 at 1:02 am
I’m afraid I can allay nothing DB – less the more I examine the evidence.
What we are seeing here is essentially no different to your more loopy fundie gangs – think Westboro Baptist. What we have is a core of rabid believers that make an inordinate amount of noise that creates the illusion that they are larger in number than they really are – I call this the “frill-necked lizard ploy”. I showed that with an examination of Skepchick here in an earlier blog – seriously, the Flat Earth Society has as many daily hits as they do, as does Druidry.org, somewhere between 500 and 2000 hits per day, depending which metric you use.
The days are early for Freethoughtblogs, but it too is showing that PZs presence online may have been somewhat overstated in the past – won’t quote numbers yet, but its nowhere near a 5 figure number as you’d expect from all of the boasting, and the decrease in ScienceBlogs traffic since his departure is negligible.
Also, some of these metric services have been marked by Myers as not visible to the public. I would like to feel chuffed that I am the cause of that with my snooping, but I won’t be so presumptuous.
Yes, the more you look, the more everything looks as a sham. Their claims to represent a majority community view are bogus – just like the Moral Majority. It’s all smoke, mirrors and typhos
August 17, 2011 at 4:04 am
Lots of people like me have abandoned PZ and Pharyngula despite having enjoyed the site for many years…sadly all my former respect for Myers has vanished over the last six weeks.
August 17, 2011 at 4:52 am
Just like Allison, I too have stopped visiting Myers’ blog. Once you see this side of him, everything falls to pieces. He now feels like a clown, and it’s time to leave it behind and move on.
August 17, 2011 at 12:50 am
Hey, stop picking on PZ! He is just trying to raise awareness of things like sexism–sexism in PZ! And besides that pic was just a parody of men who think pics like that are funny–men like …PZ!
August 17, 2011 at 1:01 am
In other words: feminism means that if someone is a woman, making fun of them is always sexist and misogynist.
We all know that nobody would ever make fun of a MAN for shoving a kielbasa down his throat, after all. That never ever happens. Male politicians are never ever caricatured or made fun of for their looks.
These “feminists” would most likely tell off a man who misogynistically held a door open for them, yet they are espousing this Victorian idea that women should be protected and insulated from the unpleasantness that goes along with being fully integrated into society.
This first blog you linked, in which the writer is basically defending Bachmann solely for being a woman,reminds me of the reasoning behind John McCain trying to get the female vote by choosing Sarah Palin for vp (and I remember the campaign website saying this): even if you are diametrically opposed to the politics, voting for someone with a vagina is the feminist thing to do.
August 17, 2011 at 1:17 am
To be honest, I have no idea about that woman or what her politics actually amount to – not really enticed enough to read through her blog in detail. Just linked her as an example of someone who won’t let Myers get away with nonsense.
My gut feeling is I’d get the stairs if we were in the same building and it had an elevator, but I don’t want to make hasty judgment. Another person pointed me to this Guardian article from her a while back –
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/cifamerica/2009/aug/25/feminism-relationships-sexism-women
Make of it what you will. It made my head spin.
August 21, 2011 at 6:49 pm
“Just linked her as an example of someone who won’t let Myers get away with nonsense. ”
Oh, good thing we all have Officer Hoggle over here to police what we say and do.
And you’re right about the article, any woman who raises issues about being raped or cat-called on a regular basis is just trying to cut your balls off.
I’m going to guess you don’t get laid without paying for it too often. As evidence I’d cite the frothing-at-the-hysterical-mouth anger you have towards unsubmissive women. It’s like watching a spoiled two year old who just learned that their sister shit in their toybox.
Blogs and comments like those found here remind me that even though the godless community tends to be made up of more rational and moral people, like the rest of society there is still a huge element of selfish, whiny knuckledraggers who can’t bring themselves to think about a complex, emotional subject without basically having a shitfit.
August 21, 2011 at 6:56 pm
Pharyngudrone thinks he sounds different to the other Pharyngudrones. Quaint.
August 17, 2011 at 1:12 am
I immediately saw a blowjob picture when I first saw Bachmann eat the corndog, but I am not entirely sure Myers tries to reference that. Considering that he talks about reptiles (probably not) swallowing their fetuses whole, I’d have thought that he was going for a “Bachmann eats children!” kind of thing.
I’m unsure if “we” are not being a bit unfair (and wrong) here.
August 17, 2011 at 1:26 am
I personally don’t care what anyone sees in the picture or makes of it. Not even slightly. My only points are –
* Myers does not have enough integrity to stand by his own posts, and without the popular approval of his baboons his spine is made of jello, and
* The ease with which he recoils from fem-bots bearing torches
He’s a flip-flopper with no moral or ethical foundation and even less self-respect.
August 17, 2011 at 1:33 am
And just by way of comparision – Hitchens as an example never redacts anything, even in reprints. He is however man enough to admit error of judgment or behaviour and will append explanations of how and why he understands the errors of his ways.
This is the difference between a man that has honour and a man that is a bankrupt.
August 17, 2011 at 4:30 am
I agree that he should have let it stand and add a new paragraph (with “edit!”-markup) explaining his position.
August 17, 2011 at 2:04 am
franc said “no idea about that woman or what her politics actually amount to “ well according to her, you bloody well orter.
“my own individual reputation cultivated over five years of public opinion-making as a blogger “(McEwan)
Shame on you, you bigot-bloke-you! Have you been hiding in a hole? This person is Important.
I read McEwan’s Grauniad dump. Fuck me, not another one! Like Benson, G.Christina, Dreschler and so on. At least Dreschler ought to have a handle on the concepts behind “delusional” and “grandiosity”.
There’s a jakey sits on a bit of cardboard outside my local supermarket, regaling all and sundry with his wide-ranging opinions. Little did I know he’s a Diogenes-de-nos-jours.
And he has a bigger (although less compliant and willing) audience, I’d hazard.
Then again, his philosophical output is genuinely expensive, unlike that of the above-mentioned chatterati.
Special-Brew don’t come cheap, y’know.
August 17, 2011 at 2:12 am
Like I said, she made my head spin. It has to be extra special gibberish for me to concentrate. Want gibberish? Try this for size, it’s radioactive –
https://sindeloke.wordpress.com/2010/01/13/37/
Consider yourself warned…
August 17, 2011 at 3:30 am
Some mothers do ‘ave ’em, franc.
Where do you find these berks?
I just had to go and look, didn’t I?
So the idea is the gecko can’t survive in that environment without a slave, and pricey artificial life support?
Stupid dog should go for a long walk. And leave the door open.
One commenter did try (I think : all a bit hard to follow, for me)
#18 : “a pretty radical colonization and denial of the absolute otherness of an Other, not to mention a startling assumption of self-presence.”
August 17, 2011 at 11:15 am
I don’t find them – they find me. This thing decided I needed re-education and linked that to a comment about one of these blogs on ‘tardbook.
August 17, 2011 at 3:58 am
Has anyone else noticed how the most insufferable, hysterical bitches (hey, screw political correctness at this point) at Pharyngula are the ones that add French words after their usernames (e.g. “Caine, Fleur du Mal”, “RahXephon, un féminist nucléaire”, etc.)
PS PZ Myers sucks
August 17, 2011 at 6:23 am
Yeah, that’s my fault. I spoke in french over there out of frustration at the general stupidity. It kinda stuck as a meme. And it’s a bit ethno-racist IMO, but I wouldn’t point that out to the sycophants over there.
The only exception is Caine, who had her nick before I showed up.
August 17, 2011 at 8:26 am
Maybe the whole lot of them view us ‘fugees in ERVania (and here) as a bit “À rebours”?
Although it’s them that seem to have a relation to ordinary human society like that of a nonbeliever trying to embrace religion.
August 17, 2011 at 4:18 am
There’s more to this incident than you are seeing I think. It’s significant.
Normally it is OK for feminists to attack women who are outside the in-group. Conservative women, transgendered women, or women who have criticised feminism in some way (“gender traitors”). Indeed the former insider who attacks the tribe is more dangerous than a normal outsider. So that’s normal and what PZ did was normal and the reaction in the first 90 comments, all normal.
But then a number of feminists decided to attack PZ. This article was basically just an excuse but it started happening with Sarah Palin I guess. I’m not sure what is going on to be honest, which makes it interesting to me because normally feminists are very predictable.
It could be simply a new move to claim victimhood status. Feminists are always on the look out for new victimhood narratives. However why attack a feminist in good standing like PZ? It may be that it is because he is a male and some feminist women are indignant of men who pretend to be feminists. So this is to take PZ down a peg or two and remind him he’s only a male and should shut the fuck up more often. It’s harder to see this attack working if a female feminist such as Watson had posted the same thing. Or perhaps a segment of the feminist movement is becoming more openly conservative in defending these conservative women? Finally it could just be jealousy of the attention PZ gets compared to let’s say feminist women who consider themselves “real feminists” as they have blogs about nothing else.
August 17, 2011 at 11:07 am
Oh gawd. Why? This is what happens inside of any kind of witch-hunting ecosystem. It is a system entirely dependent on spectacle and ritual punishment to sustain itself – it starves without it.
This precisely the kind of behaviour that undermines all collectivist, hive minded authoritarian systems. Look at Stalin’s USSR and in Merka, HUAC. The examples are endless. Sooner or later, just like rats in cage, they start eating each other.
You may also find some curious other parallels here –
https://greylining.wordpress.com/2011/07/17/the-watson-circus-and-reflections-on-the-stanford-prison-experiment/
August 18, 2011 at 6:29 am
Stalin had a blog?
I don’t see much in common between feminists and the USSR or feminists and the Stanford prison experiment. I mean beyond “bad things happened somehow”. That is not sufficient grounds for drawing a comparison IMO. Also in the essay through that link PZ would be a guard not a prisoner. In Stanford the guards did not start attacking each other.
August 18, 2011 at 2:01 pm
Oh, I guess you need bloodlines stretching back into the Stalin/Mao ecosystems. Internecine “holier than thou” accusations about crimes like speculation and extravagance, wife against husband, child against parent, were just like the finger pointing about who is less sexist and more pure on the baboon board. This is a victim economy. As for Stanford, Myers is a trusty.
August 18, 2011 at 6:31 am
A 5th possibility is that this is just an example of women being bitches to each other and constantly stabbing each other in the back, with PZ here being treated as a female feminist would be by other female feminists.
August 18, 2011 at 3:18 pm
And you ask how Stanford is relevant?
August 18, 2011 at 2:10 am
Like any radicals this crowd will destroy themselves with infighting the second they start gaining a wider foothold.
August 18, 2011 at 3:10 pm
See above. I get tired of repeating it, but they rely on spectacle and ritualised punishment for sustenance. Like rats in a cage, it is inevitable that they will turn on each other.
August 18, 2011 at 3:14 pm
The upshot is that rats in a cage have a very high propensity of catching cancer if all these reports I read about are any guide.
August 18, 2011 at 3:17 pm
Oh, stop making me optimistic…
August 19, 2011 at 6:21 pm
Bachmann is certifiable, and a clear and present danger, but I truly fail to grasp the point of making fun of anybody for eating anything even vaguely cylindrical. Bananas and hot dogs are simply impossible to eat without being suggestive. What kind of third-grader bothers to comment on it?
August 19, 2011 at 6:29 pm
It just shows the poverty of the Pharyngudrones. What is most telling is the commentary – “nyuk, nyuk you funny PZ” followed by at comment #91 condemnation of apparent sexism. It’s like a switch has been flicked.
This is an insect hive. “Me too!” chump town. Independent minded though. Of course.
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