Not that any evidence is really needed that Access apologists orchestrated a poll bombing to skew results for their own vulgar propaganda purposes, but here’s some anyway. This is a spam of the “Urgent!!! Forward to everybody you know!!!!” variety that was sent when a poll on religious education was posted by The Age and gave results Access Ministries seriously did not want to see.
The mass mailing was initiated by Alyson Prescott, Access CRE Support Officer, around May 15 and drips with the usual persecution paranoia. It’s also unlikely to be the only piece –
Dear Friends
You may well be aware of the orchestrated attack through the media
on the work of Christian Religious Education in Schools.Your voice is needed even in this most simple of ways. There is a
poll currently running on the Age web page about CRE.I’m sure many more than 24% are in favour of CRE (compared with 76% against)! But we need to be heard.
Please click on this link, and vote today! Then encourage your
friends who value CRE to do the samehttp://www.theage.com.au/polls/victoria/teaching-the-word-20110513-1e…
Pray diligently and daily that God will protect his work, and help
all CRE teachers to continue to teach wisely, prayerfully and
confidently.You may also like to write to your members of Parliament to express
your opinion regarding the value of CRE to the students of Victoria.Thank you so much for your support
Alyson
/Alyson Prescott/
/CRE Support Officer, Manningham/
/Ph 9898 4922 Mob 0407328100/
/aprescott@accessministries.org.au
Note the admission that actual public opinion did not match the desired delusion and that, therefore, cheating is justified to redress the balance to conform with what is obviously god’s will.
Lies, deception and fraud no matter what angle you look at Access Ministries from. Various copies of the spam through google groups can be found here – but that would only be a drop in the bucket compared to what was simply email chain forwarded.
Those busy little beavers from Access Apologetics are still slapping away at that same poll, and they will ’till they get Raptured or The Age wakes up and closes it (whichever comes first), and the dumber amongst their numbers are starting to brag about it (also see update below).
It is curious to note in the above thread that the poll is actually very, very hard to find if you don’t know its there. Another commenter there did find a poll by searching, but it was a different poll posted by The Age a month earlier, well before the current fiasco blew up (and this time closed after the usual expiry time). And the result? Surprise! The same as the later poll before it got seriously corrupted –
So this current poll, that is still relentlessly being bombed, can’t even be found by an ordinary person that, sensibly, wants to double check an outrageous statement from a typical Access drone having a confirmation bias orgasm – and they can only find the older version. So tell me again – how is it that this newer poll which can no longer even be found is, still, some 3 weeks later, being overrun by votes exclusively in favour of Access CRE? Perhaps Bishop Hale would like to field this question?
You just run out of words at the dumbness. This unremitting black lying that no one other than Access Ministries and its tiny, but loud, minority of shameless losers believes. It just churns away like a perpetual motion machine, unflinching and unblinking at the reality that just no longer wants to cooperate with them.
Disgusting. Keep them away from all children in perpetuity.
And I think Evonne Paddison should consider doing a talk on Dante’s 8th Circle of Hell for her next Access Ministries fund-raising dinner. It would be most apropos. But, given the moral cowardice, not very likely.
Update: A reader has pointed out another instance of an Access shill publicly crowing about the massive “endorsement” in The Age’s May 13 poll (which has still not been closed) –
@Riddley – we’ve heard lots from Dr Paddison since making those comments publicly in another context in 2008. Where have you been?
It’s “The Age” we haven’t heard much from since their poll ‘Do you support religion in schools programs?’ came out 76% in favour of ‘Yes’ of the 72,000 respondents.
TheAge | Melbourne – May 27, 2011, 8:43AM
Addendum: This is another co-spammer which just adds to Access’ impressive non-proselytising resume –
Rev. Steven Kasambalis JP (Violetta)
1 Adelaide Ave, Mt Waverley 3149,Australia
Email skasa@optusnet.com.au
Ph/Fax (03) 9807-7120Mobile 040404 3485
For more info on Church activities visit our new websitehttp://mtwaverley.nazarene.org.au<http://mtwaverley.nazarene.org.au/>.
” You will be called a Repairer of Broken Walls, a Restorer of the Streets”
(Isaiah:58:12)
According to the cesspit of lies, The Church of the Nazarene is –
The Church of the Nazarene is an evangelical Christian denomination that emerged from the 19th century Holiness movement in North America with its members colloquially referred to asNazarenes… The mission is “to respond to the Great Commission of Christ to ‘go and make disciples of all nations’ (Matthew 28:19)”.[7] In December 2006, this was expressed more succinctly as “to make Christlike disciples in the nations”.[8] This frames the global mission of the denomination. In 2009 the General Assembly indicated in its revision of Article XI of theManual the means for accomplishing its mission: “making disciples through evangelism,education, showing compassion, working for justice, and bearing witness to the kingdom of God.”[9] Since 2001, the three “core values” of the Church have been identified as “Christian, missional, and holiness.”[10]
June 4, 2011 at 1:24 am
Anti-pharyngulated by the looks of things 😀
That’s why newspaper polls are pointless.
June 4, 2011 at 1:42 am
I am not in favour of Pharyngulation, never have been and have been quite vocal against it in the past. Arguing for it as a “good thing” uses much the same logic as US arguments for waterboarding – ultimately I don’t care: you forfeit your moral high ground by even indulging in justification. The Pharyngula effect here was inconsequential – the effect here from Access is the result of the complaint generation sweatshops of folks like the Salt Shakers. It has all been done manually and taken weeks to get the screwed results they have now which more competent bombers could have done in hours. All of its irrelevant. The intent is the only thing I am interested in. It shows, yet again, what moral destitutes Access and all involved are.
June 4, 2011 at 8:15 pm
If you were familiar with the Morgan Research on the same question in 2000 and 2005 the results were very similar – about 2/3rds of the population wanted weekly re classes in public schools.
June 4, 2011 at 8:29 pm
You have to be more specific about which polls you refer to – these things are on the same spin cycle as “do you want a republic” and “do you support gay marriage”.
As has been mentioned in previous blogs, the question itself is too ambuguous, ie. you will find even a majority of hardcore atheists to be in favour of religious education providing it is comparitive and objective in its presentation. The polls are not in question here anyway – it is the poll manipulation by Access that is of interest.
June 9, 2011 at 6:04 pm
Is this a serious article? How could an open public email from someone to a groups of friends or supporters be construed as insidious or sinister? Take for example, the FIRIS campaign emails and info:
“Also, get one of our FIRIS newsletter notices in your school newsletter. Don’t take “no” for an answer.
If you haven’t read the AEU resolution on Special Religions Instruction it can be read on their website here. Tell everyone about this.
Please continue to direct your friends to http://www.religionsinschool.com and sign up there to be part of the campaign.”
And:
“SOME ACTION YOU CAN TAKE – can you please pass this on to anyone you know with children in a state primary school. # Dear Parents, we need these ads to be placed in each schools newsletter so that discussion about how religion is taught in schools gets addressed. Thanks from the parents at FIRIS.”
You sound like a paranoid consiracy theorist of the most bizzare sort.
Get a life.
June 9, 2011 at 7:31 pm
Thanks for your constructive feedback, but it helps if you read prior to commenting, because don’t seem to even understand what it was about. If you actually did read this and follow the links, as well as the previous series of blogs on the subject, you wouldn’t need to ask if it was “serious”. As much as Access may behave like dumb-as-dogshit fictional villains, they actually are real, they do lie and deceive like this, and this particular article is only about one tiny aspect of their abject, morally bankrupt repulsiveness. And they have unsupervised contact with children.
You cannot compare Access or the ACL to FIRIS. FIRIS do not deliberately twist the story; they support all of their statements with verifiable evidence; they do not want to secretly indoctrinate your children against your wishes; and they don’t deliberately destroy evidence to cover for deceptive and fraudulent behaviour while breaching contracts and stealing public money. No one that is honest does stuff like that.
So do you have anything to add that is not nonsense? Accusations of “conspiracy theorism” are pretty serious. Unless you actually have some evidence that disproves what is presented in my blog, I will have to assume you are yet another Access apologist/shill just flinging more dung hoping for something to stick. No one is interested in those tactics any more – everyone knows you are all liars. You’ve blown it. Go sit in a corner and think about why you make baby jesus cry.
June 11, 2011 at 9:10 pm
Well that is all very convenient. I am not a supporter of Access and have nothing to do with them or SRI. I am however against scurrilous and degenerate prattle that vilifies any group in society. The substance of your (inane) argument goes something like this:
Proposition 1: All people who are involved with, support, or endorse Access ministries are liars, dumb-as-dogs hit fictional villains, morally bankrupt, repulsive, deceptive, fraudulent, breach contracts, steal public money, etc etc.
Proposition 2: supporters of FIRIS- or anti-Access folk are: saintly, innocent, and totally just and right in their cause.
Thanks for providing more evidence of your paranoid conspiratorial mind. For if you truly believe the above propositions, and your blog lends to the fact that you do, then you sadly misguided. To believe so fanatically in your cause you make FIRIS sound like the Taliban. Your cause is perfect and just, and you must banish the infidels. Your world looks like this: FIRIS=good and just, Access=evil. The last time we saw an entire group of people slurred and denigrated like what you state about Access ministries, was in the 1940’s in Germany. You are a purveyor of hate and your speech is vile and vindictive. As I said earlier, get a life.
June 11, 2011 at 9:11 pm
Well that is all very convenient. I am not a supporter of Access and have nothing to do with them or SRI. I am however against scurrilous and degenerate prattle that vilifies any group in society. The substance of your (inane) argument goes something like this:
Proposition 1: All people who are involved with, support, or endorse Access ministries are liars, dumb-as-dogshit fictional villains, morally bankrupt, repulsive, deceptive, fraudulent, breach contracts, steal public money, etc etc.
Proposition 2: supporters of FIRIS- or anti-Access folk are: saintly, innocent, and totally just and right in their cause.
Thanks for providing more evidence of your paranoid conspiratorial mind. For if you truly believe the above propositions, and your blog lends to the fact that you do, then you sadly misguided. To believe so fanatically in your cause you make FIRIS sound like the Taliban. Your cause is perfect and just, and you must banish the infidels. Your world looks like this: FIRIS=good and just, Access=evil. The last time we saw an entire group of people slurred and denigrated like what you state about Access ministries, was in the 1940’s in Germany. You are a purveyor of hate and your speech is vile and vindictive. As I said earlier, get a life.
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